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Hey folks,

I sent this message yesterday to Andrew and afterwards came to my mind to post it here too:

"Hey Andrew, maybe you can help. I own a Moller 30 and I am trying to track down further information on it. Also wrote Moller in Germany. My main interest: Basicly everything. What was it used for? What is the mount called? Synchro focus? What was the taking lens? Things like this. If you have an idea where to ask best,please let me know. Thanks!"

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Any help is appreciated. 

I do have more specs and information to share, if somebody is interested.

cheers,

 

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That's awesome. Such a rare lens. To be honest, people have talked about this before. I don't think it was anything but an attachment.

Are you in Japan now? I'd love to see it in person next time you are.

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Hey! Thanks for your reply. I've contacted the German Moller Museum and waiting for their reply now. I guess it was a synchrofocus (?) lens and I am curious to find out which taking lens it was using. There are even rumors this lens was used for some Hollywood films. But lets see... 

No, right now I am in Vienna and when I come back to Tokyo I guess I will only bring my Isco, as the Moller is too heavy. It features a 10cm front glas :) 

But lets get in touch anyways! I am working on a project that takes place in Tokyo and I am always looking for Tokyo related footage. Feel free to PM me if you are interested! 

cheers,

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It was almost certainly used with either Cooke Speed Panchro or Kinoptik taking lenses. Probably 40,50,75 and 100mm. All the early European 'Scope (Dyaliscope, Totalvision, CinePanoramic) systems used either one or the other. It's most likely pretty sharp since the glass is so big. Would love to see a test, both at infinity and close focus.

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On 12/18/2018 at 5:38 PM, BrooklynDan said:

It was almost certainly used with either Cooke Speed Panchro or Kinoptik taking lenses. Probably 40,50,75 and 100mm. All the early European 'Scope (Dyaliscope, Totalvision, CinePanoramic) systems used either one or the other. It's most likely pretty sharp since the glass is so big. Would love to see a test, both at infinity and close focus.

Hey Dan, I found this posting: http://forum.mflenses.com/help-identify-this-mount-t56810.html

Guess by John Barlow... he thinks it might be some sort of bayonet mount. So far I found nothing essential more out.

Thanks, Dan

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On 12/18/2018 at 5:38 PM, BrooklynDan said:

It was almost certainly used with either Cooke Speed Panchro or Kinoptik taking lenses. Probably 40,50,75 and 100mm. All the early European 'Scope (Dyaliscope, Totalvision, CinePanoramic) systems used either one or the other. It's most likely pretty sharp since the glass is so big. Would love to see a test, both at infinity and close focus.

Hi Dan, got this from the Moller Archive in Germany: 

What do you think?

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The blue part looks like a simple Double Gauss prime lens. Maybe Zeiss or Kinoptik. The grey tabs on top and bottom are probably the focusing levers. I can't guess from this schematic how the taking lens and anamorphic lens was synchronized, but if the helicals are cut right, a bridge between the focusing tabs might be able to pull off dual focus in one movement.

This is a Totalvision adapter (circa France 1960) that's similar in design and construction:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Totalvision-Anamorphic-Cine-Lens-made-in-france-/113426233375

It was used with a set of four Speed Panchro primes from 40mm to 100mm mechanically linked to the adapter via the focusing lever. I'm guessing that your Moller works similarly.

Either way, let's see a lens test!

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Couldn't have put it in a better way. To see an example of a coupled anamorphot to a taking lens, you might to check this link , it's in french and it's about the Franscope system, but the pictures are self explanatory.

And I'm also very curious to see this Möller in action.

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