zlfan

varicam 27h has 60p, 3 ccd thus global shutter no debayering, dps from 2000-2010 like its footage and see it as a substitute of 35mm film rolls. maybe ccd performs better even with a relative fast reading sensor?

when i pan with c300 og, the 50mbps mpeg codec makes the whole scene blur. i cannot see anything clearly. once the panning stops, suddenly the image is very clear. i just hate it. i use nanoflash's top codec 280 mbps mpeg and 30p and it is cured. when using ml raw cameras, i see clear images during slow panning (fast panning shows rolling shutter) at 24p. i almost always use 24p for ml raw cams to save bandwidth.

probably 50d has a really slow reading sensor. i know fs100 can do 60p easily so the sensor may be faster.

i think that andrew has a very good insight. maybe the r1mx, the eosm, gh1, do not have a fast reading sensor, so that more optimized (actually limited by the then technology) for 24p motion blur.

interesting, i like the r1mx and eos-m crop mood too. i did not use gh1 hacked before. may try it.

"I think some of the faster sensor readouts are losing something important. They all look like 60p in their 24p modes." probably this is why people complain about the clinical images of the latest crop of cinema cameras, the high res, plus the lack of motion blurs. probably it is better to have 24p mode only in a camera. nowadays, high frame rate modes and 24p mode are in the same camera, not good for 24p optimization. f35 has only 24p, its 60p is rarely used. probably this is why f35 is so good at motion cadence other than its global shutter.

"The best motion cadence I've ever shot was on the Digital Bolex with the CCD sensor." i wish i have a digital bolex.

alexa has no global shutter, yet has better motion cadence, say, than f35, or komodo? what is motion cadence, then? probably my om-1 in 6k 120p burst mode has better motion cadence than alexa in slow mo mode, as om-1 treats each frame as a single photo?

nikon photo cameras have that kind of extremely sharp glow, i used v1 10 mp for its 60p mode, coupling with nikon's 18mm f1.8 (?, kind of forgetting the lens spec, long time ago), the video clips on my computer screen are very sharp and has some kind of glow (lost on youtube). now with om1 20mp 120p and zeiss zf 21mm f2.8, i still don't see that kind of sharpness glow. each camera manufacturer has its own secret juice.

This is my point. If a 20 year old varicam 27h can can do a lot that 35mm film rolls can do, the modern crop of mirrorless and cinema cams are much better, the gap between these new ones and the 35mm film rolls is really not that much, hard to justify the 100x cost and the much long time for processing.

seems that baby's chin area, the local dr is really high, yet the highlight rolloff seems nice by my eyes. the details in the highlight area still are kept. there is no clear dead white, no clipping on the right side of the histogram. if this holds true, it is really hard to justify using alexa 35, or even 35mm film rolls. they may be even better in this situation, but 27h is good enough.

i think that baby's face is one of the challengest situations, dark shade, interwoven with the sunshine areas. this demonstrates that the 27h has some mojos. my point is that the film rolls may have similar situation like the closing shop arri, 5% improvement vs 10-20 times cost. for the film rolls, the cost may be 100 times more, depending on the final feature's length.

the highlight rolloff and the skin tones of that baby's face are really nice. the low res look may be due to the superzoom. "I used Angenieux zoom B4 lens, but I'm really interested to trying Zeiss Digiprime, cine lens for 2/3"." my experience on even the canon b4 cinema zoom is not so good. no hands on experience on digiprime. i guess the digiprime will be leading a big margin in terms of clearness.

varicam 27 is 3 2/3 inch ccd cam. so the color is good. not sure about the highlight rolloff. i bought mine 10 years ago, used it once or twice, as i am totally unfamiliar with this format and the learning curve is stiff. those two menus are very difficult to go through. and all those terms in the menus are strange words to me. i am still learning. i can verify the color is good. the resolution and the details are not as good as other high quality 1080p or 4k cams that i have, but because i put an old tv zooms in front of my copy of 27h. if i put some digiprime lens on my unit, and if i learn well to set up my own picture profile confidently, i think the resolution and the details should be acceptable. not sure about the highlight rolloff though. i don't have hands on experience with the alexas and the 35mm film rolls. so i don't know the best highlight rolloff. in normal conditions, seems 27h gives good images.

i want to point out that varicam's 720p is probably the best 720p implemented. the title may be more suitable as "best 720p vs 35mm film rolls in terms of resolution". for the organic feeling, it surprises me that varicam's 720p can be better than that of 35mm film rolls. if so, what is the point of shooting with film rolls? maybe because the film rolls are expensive, only exclusive to the big budget films? i guess i am mystery buster. lol.