George IV
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Is it possible to delete your own account on this website? I can't find that option anywhere in my profile.
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46 minutes ago, noone said:
I am done with this story as again, if it looks like a duck....The chief investor (how it was put in the story) is quoted there. If you choose NOT to believe he said that, that is your problem.
I DO hate trump with a passion but for many reasons including the already mentioned frequent lies and having no regard for "facts" what ever....IE even lying about where his family comes from, EG lying about WHY he had to close his "charity" (never mind the actual REASONS which were numerous), IE having to close his "university" under court order, IE for the way he treats the little business people he deals with, IE for his draft dodging and that if he was a serving member of the defence forces, he would be court martialled many times over ETC ETC ETC.
I am out but as far as I am concerned, this issue is real and I believe he would have tried it on, even if "unofficially".
Chose not to believe what? I see no name, no statement, and no witnesses. Until there is clear evidence that any of this happened, neither one of us is in any position to call it true or false. And let me ask you. If this is such a huge story, then why are CNN, NBC, MSNBC and the CBC not running it? Normally these outlets would use a story like this to crucify Trump, but I can't find it anywhere. Doesn't that sound suspicious to you?
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11 hours ago, noone said:
Where did I SAY the former CEO rejected the deal? The Chief INVESTOR did (as was reported HE said he was told about it and HE rejected it). In any event, WHY did the CEO even meet with Trump? ETC ETC ETC.
I am satisfied, if you are not, that is up to you but I can see a clear link (and if it was informal, that gives the company deniability).
I am done.
I assume when you say chief investor you mean controlling shareholder. Please give me a link to his name and statement, and I will not bother you again.
Let me be clear that our media in the United States hates Trump with a passion. They have been caught quite a few times either twisting the truth, or completely fabricating an entire story. This CureVac article is a serious accusation that has clearly angered an an entire nation, and it needs to be proven either way. If the truth comes out that Trump made this specific offer to CureVac, then I will return and apologize for wasting everyone's time. "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities". - Voltaire
- noone, Andrew Reid and Video Hummus
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5 hours ago, noone said:
All your links rejecting it are effectively the same....IE back to the company.
The thing is Trump DID talk with the former CEO. WHY? The chief investor DID say he had been told about the offer and rejected it (and that is before the stories about it being wrong were a thing). How could he have said that if it never happened? This all seems pretty typical of Trump. he will just deny and deny and changes the story regardless of facts (EG he even denied being of German heritage for years saying he was of Swedish heritage as did his father but now is proud of his (German) heritage, EG SAYING he had to close his charity under court order for minor accounting errors while what he actually AGREED to is available for all to see on the internet.
In this case, if it walks like a duck....
Where did you read that the former CEO rejected a specific deal? The German newspaper claims that the source of this story was anonymous. In other words, they have no proof. Please cite your source that actually names anyone from CureVac as the accuser. I can't find a name anywhere.
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15 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:
I mean no offence whatsover but there is no way in this or any other lifetime will I be reading anything from that source.
Most outlets have some degree of leaning but Breitbart, like several UK outlets, is a bridge too far for me.
Sorry.
Yes, I understand. I have the same problem with many other outlets, and I can't stand politics.
The truth may be exposed when we figure out why this CureVac CEO is on "medical leave" all of a sudden. CureVac swapped their new CEO with their old one not long before this controversy happened. Stay tuned!
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5 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:
That article reports the denial by the CureVac deputy CEO Franz-Werner Haas.
The rest of the article then raises such points as :
"But Haas, in a one-hour news conference carried out by telephone, failed to explain why senior German ministers had confirmed — and strongly condemned — such a bid, and why even the company's main investor, Dietmar Hopp, said Monday that he had been informed about a U.S. offer which he then rejected."
They then quote Dietmar Hopp as saying
"..it is not possible that a German company develops the vaccine and that it is used exclusively in the U.S. That was not an option for me." He added, "[Trump] spoke to the company and they immediately told me and asked me what I thought about it, and I knew immediately that this was out of the question."
It then quotes Angela Merkel
"Chancellor Angela Merkel told reporters on Monday that the German government "has dealt very early on" with Trump's reported takeover attempt. She said, in reference to Hopp's statement, that the issue had now been "resolved."
And then concludes with this
"There are open questions about CureVac's leadership. CEO Daniel Menichella, a U.S. citizen, had to abruptly leave the company after he participated earlier this month in a White House meeting where Trump reportedly approached him with his offer."
On balance then, with that sort of input from the main investor and attributable quotes from the actual elected leader of the country, would you not be more inclined to say that that article is more weighted towards casting doubt on the company's denial rather than supporting the idea of it being some sort of hoax?
Welcome to the forum by the way.
Thank you for the kind welcome. As they say on radio, I'm a "First time caller...long time listener."
This is shaping up to be a very nasty story. It smells as though someone in the company (CureVac) leaked this fictional story in order to gain financially. I will check to see if CureVac trades publicly on either the German or American markets. If so, this could be a classic "pump and dump" scheme. At the very least, CureVac just received additional funds of 80 million euros this week. This story exposes the hoax even further:
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And now 'Business Insider'. Looks as though Reuters and other outlets were fooled.
https://www.businessinsider.com/curevac-coronavirus-vaccine-trump-germany-denial-2020-3
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'Politico' of Europe is also reporting the story as a possible hoax. The truth will come out eventually.
https://www.politico.eu/article/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-germany-curevac/
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Is Die Welt am Sonntag considered a reputable news source? It appears they were duped.
https://www.businessinsider.com/curevac-coronavirus-vaccine-trump-germany-denial-2020-3
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Thank you Andrew, for posting my comment. Many other sites would not do the same, so it's clear that you believe in free speech.
The Reuters article, as well as the original Die Welt am Sonntag article broke on Sunday the 15th. The German biotech company of interest (CureVac) made a statement (and tweeted) on the 16th that completely denied the accusation. Both Gannett (140 million readers) and the Washington Post (3 million readers) have run this story. Gannett would never lift a finger to support Trump, and the Washington Post absolutely despises him. Something suspicious is happening here.
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There is a monumental difference between political opinion, and denial of the truth. The Trump-Germany story has been debunked by a number of sources. I attempted to post a link which proves this fact, but it has remained hidden for hours. So, search "Trump exclusive test Germany" and discover the truth. It never happened.
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As a member of the Independent (moderate) party, I too have been critical of Trump over certain matters. Your accusation regarding the German company CureVac, however. has been debunked as fake news. The following is a link to my source, Gannett Newspapers, which has never supported Trump.
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I stand by every word. But I refuse to contribute to a website that considers banning free speech. And for the record, I was merely defending my country, not my president. I also still believe that your camera reviews are some of the finest and most objective out there.
Hope you are able to get home soon. This too shall pass.