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I don't know about electronically, but the new handle definitely wouldn't be physically compatible with the R5C, given that the top isn't flat and doesn't have 1/4x20 holes to screw it in.

Not really. Blackmagic does not seem to have any interest in supporting BM Raw outside of their own cameras and recorders. ProRes RAW, on the other hand, is now used at least in cameras from Panasonic and DJI, and apparently, their own camera app on iPhone. By that logic, they also shouldn't support Canon raw or Nikon raw since they are also ostensibly competitors. The historical reason was that they didn't support it because they hate Atomos, which I get, and the format was primarily recorded by Atomos recorders. Nowadays, that use case is fading as more vendors record it directly in camera without forcing users to deal with a shitty third party.

I didn't catch it while streaming the Apple keynote earlier, but apparently they mentioned that its ProRes RAW capture (I did hear that and I approve, but I just bought a 16 Pro last year so it'll be at least a couple more years before I get a newer iPhone) would also work in Blackmagic Camera. So at least on the capture side, it seems like their allergy to PRR is fading. IBC starts this week. Dare we hope for an announcement for new input codec support in Resolve? At this point, it seems silly that they would capture it and then refuse to edit it.

I guess I'll be curious to compare it with the OG Komodo. Its dynamic range is really nothing to write home about. It's some of the best DR I've seen from a global sensor, and definitely better than the E2-S6G - but compared with other cameras that I have which do 12-bit raw like the Ronin 4D, it is definitely not better and grading doesn't seem that much smoother either. (Komodo-X is a lot better) Also, a noisy image in raw partly just tells me that the manufacturer isn't baking it in - and I'm pretty OK with that.

Looks like the video got pulled, but NikonRumors summarized some stuff: At $2,100, it's a much, much more interesting option than it was at $2,600.

BTW, @Andrew Reid - which Epic are you selling? There were several (Epic M-X 5K and Epic Dragon 6K in DSMC1 and Epic-W Gemini 5K and Epic Helium 8K in DSMC2 - with monochrome variants of all of the above). If it's a monochrome or maybe a Gemini, let's talk. 😃

Sort of a new Raptor. It's just a reduced/cheaper version of the existing V-Raptor. It's basically the same as Komodo vs Komodo-X. At $15,000, it's still awfully expensive, but at least it helps them stay competitive with the UC 12K pricing-wise. I suspect that with some of the other recent releases, the number of people willing to go spend $30k on a V-Raptor X isn't huge, a very small number of Hollywood productions notwithstanding. Why shouldn't they? They own both codecs and now they can tell people that it's a camera you can use as a B camera to your Z9 or it's a camera that you can use as a B Cam to your Komodo-X or V-Raptor (or crash cam) and have it fit neatly into both workflows. This is where I am, but $2,600 isn't "cheap" for me. Sub-$2k, though, and I'm starting to pay attention. Since that won't happen, I'm probably in the "wait 6 months and pick it up used" camp.

So it would be a camera with the Z6 III sensor, but a smaller body that includes Redcode for... the same price as the Z6 III? Cool story, Nikon. Cool story. I'll be interested to see test results for it and would consider it once it's available used.

If somehow the "Red tech" is Redcode and the rumors are wrong and that it has a CF Express, this could be a big seller (and interesting to me). But yeah, those things look increasingly unlikely. Still, Nikon Raw to SD card could be compelling, depending on other features/specs/price. The big question, really, is how much Nikon want to preserve Red as a "premium" brand vs trying to make Nikon a name that people associate with cinema/video.

The official announcement happened. The most recent rumors seem to have been correct. It's probably not a camera for me, but it looks like a solid option for people who want a compact Canon which can do 3:2. Along with the announcement, there were firmware updates announced for C80, C70, R5C, and C400. They seem not very interesting in general, but the C400 will get open gate which will be nice for people who want that.

Other than "open gate" and "extra CF Express slot," that list sounds like a less good R5C. You can go spend $800 less (new) or more than $1,000 less (used) and get all the same, but with 8Kp60 raw video and 45 megapixel still images. Oh, and burst photo rate. R5C matches R5, IIRC, and maxes out at 20? Doubt that's a big selling point on a cinema line camera, though. (Broken record: But make that 7K DGO and...)

I'm definitely no electronic engineer, but the 10-15x estimate seems high to me. A sensor that is 2-4x the size and with 2x the photosites of the C70 would presumably cost more than the C70 sensor (oversized S35), but 15x seems awfully extreme. At its core, it's primarily just a second output channel from each photosite that gets amplified differently and then the two are merged with an extremely simple algorithm. The extra processing requirements for that are not all that high - and, again, a fairly small camera from 2020 was able to do it at 4K with no problem.

Indeed! If it isn't a DGO sensor, I'm not too certain that I have a reason to care about this camera much. It's not to say it'd be bad, just that it wouldn't do much that's better/different from cameras I already own - and 3:2 recording isn't a big selling point for me. I'm not sure that DGO needs that much more bandwidth, though. The C70 could do it from 4K all the way back in 2020. Surely, we've come far enough in 5 years that it could now be done on a smaller body with 3-4x the data rate! 😉 Anyway, I'm hopeful.

I'm on the other side - if they put a 6K DGO sensor in that body, it's almost definitely for me. I'd be so pumped to have DGO in such a small body - not to mention dedicated timecode so I don't kill my ears before I remember to mute the audio track that has the scratchy timecode sound. The biggest questions would be what existing gear I'd be selling in order to finance the purchase and whether I'd be waiting for used models to become available. 😅

Ergonomics look good. CF Express is nice and a welcome surprise, given that the rumors are for 6K resolution and the C80 which is also 6K only has dual SD card slots. That was my first thought, but the C80 also has them so there must be more Canon adapters that can be screwed in? Or maybe this one is high-end APS-C? I'd be very OK with that.