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I think the important thing is that the heat issue is out there now but also that its present performance should be considered the worst case scenario. Canon may be able to improve it before launch or may be able to improve it during its life cycle. Third parties may come up with mitigating options. User's may find workarounds. But if none of that happens and this is as good as it gets on the heat issue then it will still be a hell of a camera for an awful lot of people and the decision to buy one or not is now far more informed than it was a week ago. For everyone else, it is just better to sit and observe what the next few months brings when real buyers are using real models with real finalised firmware on them and uses them in different climates. Its arguable that no one really needs 8K today so even if you have to wait those few months to see how it pans out then you've not lost anything really. And will likely save yourself a few quid into the bargain.

Hang on, are you referring to my comment here ???

They'll be releasing the Pocket16K before I finally get that fucker out.

Way beyond sneaking now. Funnily enough, in Manchester, Toneh is exactly how his name is pronounced so mein host was calling him that long before it was fashionable.

And call it "Liar, Liar, Your Camera's On Fire"

I'm old enough to remember him doing a video where he claimed the R5 was a fake about 10 days or so before Canon announced it so maybe he is a bit out of the loop with them 🙂

To be serious for a moment, the amount of abuse that @Andrew Reid took from the shills, bootlickers, click merchants, grudge bearers and other assorted snide gobshites portraying him as being some sort of deranged bitter outlier who "You can always count on to be negative" for basically reading Canon's own words out to them was pathetic but very informative. I wouldn't hold out much hope of most of those people organising an apology pile on with the same gusto they organised an abuse one because, of course, thats not how they (t)roll but at least they've shown their hand about who they really are. I do hope it represents some sort of tipping point for the wider world in terms of the scales falling from their eyes about this sort of marketing though. In particular, I hope that if the R5 and R6 issues are improved or mitigated at launch or during its life cycle that people remember that the fire (ho ho) that was lit under Canon's arse to address this wasn't sparked by sycophancy.

I hope its a new camera purely on the basis that I'm running out of heat related barbs about the R5 and R6. Oh, hang on.... As opposed to a roaring fire like the R5 and R6. Phew.

Initially it will be for the electronic lenses of P4K/P6K but the motor driver interface is a separate module so it can be added to the system later. As a system, the PBC controls the camera and acts as a hub to wirelessly integrate the other modules such as the two AF adapters and the motor driver module so you can pick and choose which ones you need.

To be fair, I was very appreciative of their sage advice in that video not to listen to the biased opinions of people with relationships with manufacturers and certainly not to trust early reviews from these people. Its almost like Canon never took them on a trip to Hawaii to see the EOS-R, gave them a FREE one to giveaway as a click and subscriber booster on their channel and put out a review so speedily it was actually shot in their paid for hotel room isn't it ? Almost.

I enjoy his channel but if ever there was a wrong camera for him it is this one as it would have overheated by the time he got to his second point.

Tony knows Phoneeeey ? Interesting frame that though as he's got that anxious look of a man who's wife has had a couple of gins and is about to make some frank statements to his friends.

Can't believe no one has said "Fro Knows Promo" yet

Its not far off £1300 cheaper in some places. And thats just for a brand new one. By the time travel opens up again you'll be able to go and get a used one that has only minor internal smoke damage for a lot less.

Yeah, a constant linear offset won't be sufficient in most cases so our calibration will be with a connected tracked map of each motor. The calibration procedure for this system connects observed focus with measured distance at multiple points rather than the overall scale, as opposed to the PBC on its own which only needs two point to map this to range of the focus wheel. Display of distance on the unit, whether you are using electronic lenses on the P4K/P6K or manual lenses on motors (which will be included later), is something that you will get for free anyway. The precision of the Nucleus Nano system is actually 0-999 by the way rather than 0-100.

I think YouTube camera review videos shot on unusual cameras would be good. Like an R5 review shot on a thermal imaging camera for example.

Should be easy for someone to make a non tape based solution then to plug the hole. Although.... Maybe someone enterprising could incorporate an exhaust fan into that slot for the R5 users 😉

Thats good to know. The AF bit, not the dust bit. Not sure why BH don't address that on the "most helpful" bad review of it on their site !

I understand it disables the AF if you don't have either filter in. I'm guessing its microswitches inside the host adapter that are pressed when you slide them in so the camera knows you have inserted one or the other. So if its just physical then someone could make an empty 3D printable version of the holder to trick it.

Its still coming along. Or should I say they are coming along as there will now likely be two different options. I'll endeavour to show something of each of them in the next two weeks and the plan is currently to open pre-orders for them at the end of August for at least one of them. Component supply for prototyping has been a major issue as the design has been changing. Dual and offset is certainly doable but outside of the initial scope.

Well I suppose its all relative compared to what sort of tripod head you are using to do the tests now. Whatever the turntable or dolly are bringing to the party negatively, it is at least 100% repeatable and measurable so you can build it in. The turntables are gear driven which gives less variation than a belt driven one and the dolly can be run on a thin rubber mat to absorb the bumps. If you do have a slider then as long as you have some vertical drop space (i.e. put it on a tripod) then you could use a weight attached to a string one end of the carriage to pull it as it falls. A water bottle would do the trick as the weight as you could regulate the speed by how much water you put in. Nothing is going to be ideal unfortunately unless you want to throw a lot more money at it so you'd have to consider how much of a marginal gain any of it will bring you in terms of this project and whether thats worth it. Its all money you could be spending on buying a used EPIC and Motion Mount instead 😉

The turntable or the dolly ?

For a sub £20 budget option, there are plenty of battery operated product display turntables available on Amazon that you can just plonk the camera down in the centre of and will do the job for repeatable panning. If you want something a bit more elaborate and don't mind spending the extra £40-50 then Neewer and Andoer make very neat little motorised dollies. Their wheels can be set straight to do linear movements or angled to do inward or outward pans. They have different speed settings so you have a very repeatable may to monitor the impact the movement speed has on your tests and are operated by remote control. The upside is that aside from using it for your test you will also then have a film making tool that is a bit more creative than a turntable and can be put in your pocket and taken on holiday to up those production values !