Simon Young

@Django My bad, the 4k moiré is in the XH-1, for some unknown reason. But if the rumoured specs of this coming x-t3 are valid and the price is right, I imagine me and a lot of other people are willing to live with the quirks just thanks to the color science in glorious 10 bit.

Hopefully it's possible to record 4k for more than 10 minutes internally without the battery grip and without the camera splitting up the data in 4GB chunks. And hopefully the bad rolling shutter and the moiré in 4k in the x-t2 is fixed. I love Fuji's color science as much as the next guy and I don't think ibis is fundamental, but I seriously hope they manage to get the very basic things right this time.

Looks gorgeous.

I own the a7riii and the GH5 and while the autofocus is superior on the Sony I still think it’s very easy to pull focus manually with the gh5, even without aids such as focus peaking and magnifying. I really don’t know how @jonpais finds he needs an external monitor to manage, especially considering the abysmal resolution on the a7iii viewfinder and screen. Oh, and even with pro color, the colors are much better on the GH5.

@Sage beautiful work! Due to the slight difference in color science, how you think this would work with the GH5s?

Certainly looks promising, super excited to see it. Please notify me when it’s done

Haha, great comparison, both cameras look awful. Thank you. But why do you get all aggro? Weird.

Loved your review Dave! Would be awesome to see the whole documentary about the balloon artist. Is that possible?

Just get the A7rIII and call it a day.

I honestly find the Sony color science bashing mildly offensive - and I agree with Philip Bloom’s statement that it’s easy to get the new Sonys to look almost anyway you want (within the limits of the 8-bit codec). If people don’t know or won’t take five minutes to learn how to grade slog2 but still use it, no wonder a lot of footage looks like shit. The color space transform plugin takes two seconds to apply. And have people not heard of the fucking qualifier in Resolve? If you’re too lazy or pressed for time to grade correctly use EOSHD then and apply some minor tweaks. There’s little to fault with the colors from the a7rIII in this clip: The famous “canon colors” from the 5d mark IV looks like thrash straight out of the camera by the way with a nasty highlight roll off and too much red in the skin.

Preach! I still miss mine, that sensor was pure magic. If it only had a little more detailed 1080p I would have kept it forever. This is the clip that made me buy it.

I respectfully disagree about the video quality being better on the a7iii than the riii. I’ve used both extensively and I agree about the a7iii being maybe one stop better in low light and more detailed in full frame, but there’s something about the image of the riii in full frame that’s simply more pleasing, even if you get the occasional moire and aliasing artifacts. Maybe it’s got something to do with the riii having less rolling shutter or being a tad “softer”, thus resulting in a more organic image. I also feel the build quality and evf (obviously) being a notch above the a7iii. Is the Riii worth the price though? Highly questionable for 99% of potential buyers who are more video oriented. And what about those ghosting artifacts? They are nowhere near as severe in the a7riii due to possibly better nr algorithm. (Read Arturs description).

Sony a7riii profile now available in Filmconvert. https://www.filmconvert.com/download/camera-profile

Is noise reduction available in the free version of 15?

Jon, why don’t you bake in the LUT? It looks terrible!

I think we should think about the fact it’s supposed to be possible to load up custom LUTs on the camera, not only for monitoring but you’ll be able to bake them in. This is potentially huge for fast turnover shooting and something we’ve seen is detrimental to the image quality, which James Miller has shown with the GH5.

@Beritar I think that video was shot in 1080 60p, it’s worse in 4K, especially the strange shimmering thing.

Returned the overhyped piece of shit that is the A7III. So happy with the rIII. Feels more solid all around as well. Don’t get the A7III unless the problems are addressed properly is my advice.

Sounds likely. I recorded a very non moving book shelf.

I also tested this last night. I set up the camera on a table, 4k 25p 100mb AF-C, IBIS and Face tracking, and the camera barely got warm after 30 minutes. It's strange because today I shot with it for five minutes with the exact same settings and it got very warm, no warning signs but a significant difference. Weird.

@Robert Collins just check out Gordon Laings pan in the bar over the bottles, that’s what it looks like, regardless of his shaky ass hands. I have a very steady hand and still can’t get a nice pan. Never mind the ibis, pay attention to the labels of the bottles, they get all jagged and nasty. I also advice you to look at the Cinema5d “review” of the camera from Japan. Look at how odd the movement of the people I seem, it’s jittery. And it has nothing do with the shutter angle, I’ve tried.

If I could go back I’d cancel it. Just wait for the sIII. The noise reduction you can live with but the stuttering and the frankly horrible motion cadence is ruining it for me. Decent for stills though haha

As far as video goes, Sony better hit it out of the park with the A7sIII.

Remember I said I got a copy without the blinking pixel row when I swapped the first one? Well guess what, the replacement has them as well. Sometimes they pop up, sometimes they don’t. It’s fucking abysmal. And another thing I noticed is the motion cadence is a lot worse than on the A7rIII - a lot worse. It almost seems like the processor can’t handle the downsampling of the 6k image and it just gets horrible. As soon as you do a pan this weird almost shimmering effect turns up. Add to that the stuttering from the lacking computational power of the thing and the image gets shitty, no matter how good the low light performance is. If Sony don’t issue a firmware update within a week regarding the pixels I’m returning it for sure. Guess it was too good to be true. I really wanted to like this camera. The A7rIII on the other hand, is a true beast.

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