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C’mon now Jon, Panasonic doesn’t even give the all-i 1080p to any of their sub $1000 cameras. All companies have product tiers with more features in the higher tiered products. The 5D4 is nearly two years old with the older processor. And to many, mjpeg is a solid codec that editing programs can cut like butter. Some of my favorite Panasonic videos were shot in mjpeg with the GH1/GH2 hacks. I don’t really care what cameras people use. In fact, I love the competition these companies have. It only helps us. But this notion that Canon isn’t innovating or they’re holding back is ridiculous. They’re the first company to have fully manual video mode, first 4K DSLR, first 4K 60p DSLR, first company with usable video AF, first company to put a Log Profile in a DSLR... etc...

You could always do the old mini dv trick of stacking the same shot on two different video tracks. A B&W video track of the same clip with a lower opacity can beef up the image a touch.

No, a GH5 cannot record 4K ProRes. So, you would either need a 4K recorder or a higher end camera like one of the BlackMagic Ursa cameras.

Great samples. And very good points, Jon. Although it should be mentioned that those videos were shot by professionals, with professional crews, using professional lenses, and professional level support gear, corrected and graded by a professional colorists, with a professional production staff to put all of the elements together. Those guys, with their resources, would make a t2i look amazing. With that being said, the GH5 and GH5s are amazing cameras and would be for double the price. And I don’t see anyone arguing this with you.

Seems interesting. I wish Kinefinity would come out with a pocket camera. If it were cheap enough, I’d definitely give it a try... and maybe a direct competitor for BM would give them a kick in the ass to develop a pocket 2 or lowering the price of the original.

Cheap Nikon Series E 50mm 1.8...

128 will give you about 25min

Well that was the guy who hacked the GH2... I assume he has some contacts? As deezid said, the 6K anamorphic mode seems to have less in camera sharpening... so with a good downscale, you can probably get some cinematic 2K/3K. Now I only shoot 1920x810 2:35 on my 5D3, so I agree 1080p is usually more than enough. But with the GH5... the softer 6K anamorphic with IBIS is definitely a selling point that the more expensive GH5s cannot do.

It’s literally the 3rd comment down from the top of the page linked. It very well may be BS but Vitally may have some insider knowledge. Either way, always a pleasure. I was making a joke about the GH5s not getting IBIS due to that Amazon show needing a couple of crash cams...

Sorry it was personal view... https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/18330/panasonic-gh5s-gh5-s-4k-video-edition/p14

I think it was on 43rumors... supposedly they got substantially less pre orders than they projected. I assume if it’s true (it probably isn’t) the reduction will be closer to the 15% number. But yeah, if it is true... 40% off... I need a crash cam too...

Sorry, didn’t realize you already have an NX500. I didn’t own a native lens when I owned mine, so honestly I didn’t even realize it had PDAF... I probably wouldn’t have used it anyway at the time. With that being said, the 4K AF on the M50 does not look that good... don’t know if that is a dealbreaker for you. Rolling shutter doesn’t look that great either and I don’t remember there being any issues with RS on the NX500. So if you need really clean 4K with PDAF quality AF, the M50 isn’t probably for you. If you can get by with good 1080p and the best AF in the industry, then maybe it’s worth it.

Have you compared the 6K anamorphic mode from the GH5 to the 4K of the s? Any discernible differences in IQ?

Was that rumored 15-40% GH5s price reduction a bunch of BS or is that still floating around?

Well to be fair... The Grand Tour ordered 4 GH5s’... so that’s just guaranteed money in the bank... The GH5s is intriguing and I agree that sensor is pushing a little more mojo than the GH5 but dollar for dollar, if I were in the market for either/or, I’d go with the GH5 for IBIS and 6K anamorphic. However, I still think both cameras have an innate videoish look to them that reminds me of PBS local programming or low budget travel shows.

I have been seeing some nice footage from the GH5s. A lot less footage than a month or two after the GH5 release, but better quality overall. But... It still should have had IBIS... probably the biggest product mistake of the year. If you’re okay with import models, a GH5 can be bought for $1499 brand new. With IBIS and 6K anamorphic... it’s hard to beat for some extra lowlight...

Buying an NX500 right now at $700-$800 (used price) and Lenses for it is akin to buying a bag of rocks. In static shots the 4K I’ve seen from the M50 looks pretty good. The rolling shutter is troubling and the AF needs some tweaking but the 1080p looks really good with amazing AF. So I’m my opinion, I think it’s an okay first effort into 4K in the entry level, consumer camera, 4K market.

Yeah that RS is horrendous. As is the AF in 4K. But, on my iPhone, I really could tell no difference in IQ between 1080p and 4K. Hmm... I still think this could be a good buy when the price drops.

The M50 should be as good as the NX500 with a hair less MPs. The crop is about the same and I’d suspect in most situations, the M50s 4K AF will be better. Plus the NX500 doesn’t have full time focus peaking, so as soon as you hit record you lose it plus there was something odd with framing... I believe it had to do with it not having an official movie mode. And finally, if you need this for vlogging, the 1080p will be fine with great DPAF and no crop.

And here is his updated review of the 80D...

How do they look?

Well how relevant is a C100 in 2018? I’ve seen some beautiful footage from the original. And when they go on sale... the price seems unbeatable at $1700. Have you guys noticed an increase in work just by having a C100 in your kit?

Yeah, video monitors are cumbersome on small cameras and draw unwanted attention.

@canonlyme yeah but I am partial to the 35mm 1.8... it’s probably my favorite lens of all time. For your needs, the 24-35mm should be a perfect solution. It’s been described at Rokkor Files as being 3 prime Lenses in one.

@canonlyme yeah that seems like a good price. I just sold mine yesterday for about 100 US... so that’s about the same, right? And yeah I’d rather use that zoom instead of the 35mm f/2.8 for the same money... now if you could find a cheap 1.8, then I would recommend that over the zoom. Honestly I have no idea if this lens will hit the glass on the Turbo II... I’ve never used a Speedbooster. And yeah, I shoot Canon 5D Mark III raw now. I’ve been with it for about a year now. I’ve had a couple second cameras since, but I’ve sold them because nothing I have used has matched it. And although they were meant as casual cameras... I never used them because I love the image I am getting with ML Raw to even be bothered with the other cameras. Have you done the CineLikeD hack that BTM discovered? Also, nice photo... what was that shot with?