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I agree. It would be unwise to try and gatekeep it. Personal tastes factor in and everyone has the right to produce or consume whatever artistic product feels right. Just to clarify, it's not what appeals to "me", it's just the concept of art in general. There are canons and 1000s of books written about this subject. I'm just saying art should be a category reserved for something truly special, epoch-making, just like the ancient murals discovered thousands of years after they were drawn you mentioned. I've seen the larger examples of these ancient cave paintings in Europe 4 to 6 meters wide drawn 10 or more meters above cavern floors and they are truly awe-inspiring. Anyone entering those places will never be the same thanks to that experience. It's soul-moving and deeply spiritual. I'm not sure a 30 second reel has the same profound impact on the soul though LOL
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Sorry friend, but in 100 years neither G.U.'s videos nor your doodles will be interpreted as art pieces. The first aspect of any artistic endeavor is of course the personal emotion or intent, as Andrew said. But that's the bare minimum. It's all uphill from there (technique, movement behind it, people you know, trends followed by the masses, etc.). That's a less than 0.01% chance of actually making something the world will remember, generally by channeling a huge amount of personal pain into something concrete. And it's ok. That's why artists are so special and, generally, tortured souls.
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There's a place for in-depth analysis like G.U.'s channel. It's useful. But it's kind of difficult to place it at the "art" level when he himself distanced his channel from more opinionated spaces by offering a "just the facts" approach and basically zero emotion or personal aspects of his life related to the object being reviewed. Not every piece of digital content is art. I'd say it's less than 0.1% right now.
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That's the definition of artist. Clearly, G.U. is not one. It's not a sin, though. Not everyone has the sensibility to become one.
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I'm sure the owner of this site would object to that statement LOL Camera reviews are not art. They are content. There's a huge gap that exemplifies why this sort of youtuber just fades away. At no time during the past 10 years did I see one of his reviews and said "wow, now that's art right there". There's no soul, just data. Clicked on a video, saw it, and 5 minutos later forgot all about it. It's NOT his fault, it's just he's made from a different material than artists. I repeat, it's NOT a deficiency, it's just his way of presenting his videos: cold, clinical, analytical, operational. Curiously enough, his pal from Camera Conspiracies has had some very artistic videos where he actually shows some soul. His technique is dreadful, but you can see HIM and his EMOTIONS through the video. Cheers.
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That's bc the man is not an artist nor a journo. He's just some dude who speaks English (this is relevant) and got really passionate about cameras during The Great MILC Video Expansion of 2014-2024. Since this is a hobby for him and not a job, the passion just ran out.
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Amazing feature-film Magellan is shot on the Panasonic GH7
EduPortas replied to Andrew - EOSHD's topic in Cameras
Yes, but again it's all about intent. If the ppl making the movie elected a particular piece of gear bc that was their intention it's a good sign they know what they are doing. Most artists are really picky about their instruments and cinema is no different. Why? Bc the creative intent changes with the instrument selected to convey the idea. Great photographers know this and have to think clearly what will be sacrificed by changing their usual gear for any given task. The Arri trope is all about the industry. Ppl making bad movies just mark a bunch of high-end gear bc it will make it look like every other movie out there from the last 15 years. -
Amazing feature-film Magellan is shot on the Panasonic GH7
EduPortas replied to Andrew - EOSHD's topic in Cameras
I'd lime to know why the GH7 was used for this particular movie/documentary. Practical reasons regarding size? Cost? Absolute technical image quality? We just don't know. I also think camera choice is the most important reason any creator is going to make, aside from script. If the piece doesn't look right no one will watch it, even if it's Citizen Kane Part Deux. That's why some Hollywood creative trios are almost set in stone: director-writer-photographer. If I go to an IMAX I expect to see something spectacular. If I go to the cinema for an indie doc, my expectation changes. If I turn on my TV and watch channel 6 I pretty much expect soap opera visuals. -
Canon R7 and R8 as B/C Cams for Long Form Event Video?
EduPortas replied to BlueBomberTurbo's topic in Cameras
Owner of an R8 here. Those big phat sensels and sophisticated AF will help you big time in low light. 1080p is very good, if you need it. I've had zero problems with overheating in indoor situations, but the body will get warm if you push it all the way to 2 hours of recording. Same goes for SD card. Remember that you can use EF APS-C lenses with the official adapter and that opens up a huge panoply of options for the R8 which were never available for EF bodies. You'll get the APS-C crop in video, of course, but it's still a great option. Since my R8 lives on a tripod I use mine with a venerable EF-S 17-55 F2.8. That's it. For video I need nothing more, save for some lights and a good Rode wireless lavalier mic kit. Minimal set-up, every good results. P.S: if you'll be swapping SD cards in long recording sessions and the camera has to remain on a tripod, avoid the R8. The SD card is placed on the bottom, so you'll be hitting your battery constantly. The battery door is the worst I've ever seen in any Canon camera irregardless of price. Go for the R7 and its side-loading SD card slot, in that case. -
Yes, just a one shot fixed-lens model in the X100 body or similar. Any other strategy would confuse their own customer base. Right now, they have some very clear buyer differentiation in the extremely expensive MF and the fragmented APS-C lines. So a FF body makes sense but only as a curiosity for the deep-pocketed aficionado.
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How about ProRes? The ZR has ProRes HQ and ProRes RAW. That should be easy to edit on a Mac, right?
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Any of Canon's recent MILCs are more than enough for your needs. - Cheapest for interviews: R8 or R7 (HD is also very good on both of these if you need to save on SD cards) - Best for Docs and everything else: R3 (for the money it's a lock for just about any application). You already know the best qualities of these cameras: rock solid AF, great color science, best in class reliability and dead simple usability. New Nikons are also very very good in this regard (Z5M2, Z6M3, Z8, Z9). Just try to stay with first-party lens options. For Canon you can add the official adapter and get the whole EF catalog. Maybe not the most exciting models, but if you're looking for real world usability it's hard to go wrong with the big two right now.
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Damn, that's unfortunate. Maybe they blame the Angry Photographer for their divorce. They went at each other hard some years ago very publicly with non tech related personal stuff.
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You forgot Chris and Jordan LOL
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Def getting there. As you said, bokek is better when it's not distracting, like in most of your recent images. That and the very contrasty-darker frames make the image better. I think that's it. You'd just have to add a couple of actors that move within the frame to fill the last piece of the visual puzzle.
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Nice! The contrasty light makes this images much more interesting than the previous flat ones.
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Sounds good, can you name that specialized AI and the purpose it serves in your workflow? Thanks.
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It is, but true artists love the craft. That's why they are artists and not accountants. When talking about AI for creativity it's always about the program used, never the person doing the work. "How do I make this easier?" is the question of an engineer or someone who wants to cut corners. Now we all use some sort of AI for our day to day jobs. I get it. It's either that or get out. But no self-respecting artist goes into the daily creative grind thinking I should embrace tech to increase my output and spend my free time on TikTok.
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As the poster above said, the cinema look is hand-crafted. I would add dramatic lighting to your list. Think of the great Italian chiaroscuro painters from the XVII century. By nailing that artistic expression you're 99% into cinematic. Lots of light makes things uninteresting, didactic.
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Put a lady's stocking on the mount of the lens to soften the image, maybe?
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Well, that's something. It's clear that key and fill lights are the main differences between all the high-quality movies you mentioned and your samples. Hours upon hours go into the cinema aestehtic so it will be very hard to replicate via YT without the proper means. Add some very good actors and the bar stands incredibly high. Ever shot with older tape-based digital cams? Maybe you'll get some better results with a different media altogether. Newer sensors are just too clean.
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Thanks for the detailed answer. You're right, only the more advanced videocameras will allow to you record at different fps, either higher or lower than 24fps (8, 12, 18, for example). Not sure about your GH7, though. But as you mentioned, you can play around with a lower shutter speed to break the 180º rule. Try 40 or 30 instead of the usual 48 or 50 and see what happens. Can't lose anything for trying, right? I don't mean to be rude, but it's hard to make innanimate objects feel "cinematic". We'd get a much better feel of the cinematic vs. video aesthetic you mention by recording human movement.
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Sony finally notices that people like small cameras, releases RX1R III
EduPortas replied to eatstoomuchjam's topic in Cameras
DP Reviews image tests on the new RX1 Mark III just came out. The lens is incredibly soft. Too many MPXs on that sensor for a 10 year-old lens. -
Still too clean for me. Dod you record at 24fps? Maybe try lower at 20-21fps to give a more filmic cadence?
