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​Why can't you change it? On my camera selecting Gamma DR gives complete access to the Color, Saturation Sharpness, Contrast and Hue settings. Go to the menu, Choose the video menus, Select Gamma control and click, Select Gamma DR and press the up button, then select Color, Saturation, Sharpness, Contrast or Hue, after which press the up button to access the slider bars to set it to whatever you like.

​No way. That would make it lighter than the RX100. With a 24-240mm zoom on a 1 inch sensor, and given it's general dimensions from PR pictures, it is more likely around 850g or more.

​Just under a kilogram IIRC. It isn't lightweight.

​Footage shot for broadcast can't be transcoded? I did not know that.

​No, that is Canon's new anti-sharpening technology.

​Encoding is done in hardware, so the camera will never be able to do H.264 encoding. It is not the sort of thing that can be added with firmware.

​You can't "opt out" of paying for the CFast card and reader. So the camera costs $2500, not $2100. Canon can only provide 305 mbps because of the CFast slot, which was not realistically available at the time the AX100 came out, so obviously it couldn't support higher bit rates. The AX100 is last years model, not this years model. Why is that hard to wrap your head around? The next iteration of the AX100 will likely arrive in early 2016 and it will have higher speed interfaces that allow higher bit rates. H.265 will start to be more widely adopted around then as well, which will allow more efficient storage. I have an NX1, which records H.265 at 80 mbps. Transcoding to H.264 (the same as Canon's codec) at similar quality produces files at *drumroll* ~300 mbps. Number sound familiar? High performance storage in 2016 may not require a CFast card at all.

​I have a Sony RX100M3, which uses the same sensor and processor and codec. It is not "shitty" as you call it. The image quality from that little camera blows my Canon HF-G30 out of the water.

The XC10 doesn't "cost $100 more". It costs $600 more.​ People were gushing about the AX100 because at the time it was the only dog in town, not because it was superior to the later 4K options that became available. I think it is a safe bet that an AX100 mark 2 will appear early in 2016 with an updated sensor and vastly improved processor, and will probably shoot 4k60p at higher bit rates, perhaps with H.265 encoding for efficiency. There will also likely be a RX10 mark II appearing pretty soon I imagine, which will shoot 4k30P at high bit rates, and be a superior camera compared to the XC10 both physically and optically. And it will cost half as much. You don't get an option with the bit rate at 4K in the XC10, you have to shoot at 305 mbps. There is no other setting according to the specs. That will give you about 30 minutes of recording time on the CFast card, then you have to stop shooting or put a new one in. That means you will need quite a few of these cards on your person, which will pop the price for the system up considerably. And you can't say that the cost of the card is included in the overall price tag and "subtract" that, because if you want to shoot HD you don't get that option - you have to pay for the CFast card whether you use it or not. One more thing, the sort of people who would use a camera like this generally don't give a rats ass about such a high bit rate. It will be used mostly for event coverage of one form or another, and that sort of footage is generally used as is with little modification.

​But if you shoot 4K you are probably going to need more than one card since 64GB is going to disappear fast at that bit rate. That will pile the cost on pretty quickly. And the HD records to the regular SD slot, which means the CFast card is wasted if that is all you shoot at. The Sony and Panasonic video MILCs/MFLCs will probably undergo their next technology upgrade in early 2016, so the lifetime of the Canon camera as a competitive product is going to be really short. The XC10 is going to be well outclassed by sub 1K$ cameras in a year from now, so there is no way that $1800 new will be a reasonable price for it then. Remember, for a fixed lens camera you are not bound by your glass, so product loyalty is much less of a factor in that particular market, it is all about performance.

​Well, it won't take long to fill the card at 305 mbps.

​Films look jerky on computer monitors as well, it isn't just video we shoot. TV sets may do interpolation if they have that feature and that will reduce stutter, but more importantly they will adjust the refresh to match the input. That is critical. A computer monitor does not do that, it will refresh at 60Hz no matter what your video frame rate was. So unless you shoot at 60p your video is going to stutter.

​Are we supposed to conclude from that picture that they are going to announce the release of the GH4?

​It will be a professional camera, so most likely dedicated to video with no stills function.

​If the bit rate is low enough for the data bus, any frame rate can be recorded. The limitation is not the frame rate, it is how much data you can stuff through the interface port, in other words the bit rate.

​It is a rumor, not a press release We don't know what the specs will be.

​Head office is not going to be telling sales reps anything until they announce the camera. Typically there is a few months gap between the announcement of a new camera and when it actually becomes available for sale. That gap is when sales reps are given briefings about the new product so they know what to tell customers.

They wouldn't stop supplying if they had lots in stock. What is more likely happening is that their production runs are relatively small and they cannot supply every market, consequently they focus on certain markets. Their ability to support products in smaller markets may also be limited, which would impact on the decision to sell them there as the overhead for support may make the products not economically feasible. You can get the camera and/or lenses if you do it by special order through a retailer (any specialist camera store in a market being supplied cameras should be able to do this for you), but finding them physically in stores is difficult because there do not appear to be many demo units out there. In most places you are not going to be able to walk into a store and buy it off the shelf - it would either have to be ordered in or you will have to buy it by mail order. The price reduction probably reflects the anticipation of increased competition from new products that arrive in 2015. It is best to consider the NX1 as an experimental camera for Samsung, one to test the waters with and build their reputation in the higher end camera market.

​They sell STILLS cameras better, not video, which is what this forum is about. If someone is buying a hybrid, they buy a Panasonic, Sony or Samsung, not a Canon. I gave up my Canon for an NX1. No regrets, at all.

​Let me say it once again, since you are missing the point. The general market and the upscale market are NOT the same thing. Trends and behaviours in the general market having no bearing on what the upscale market is doing. Unless for bizarre reason you think people who buy 4K sets are buying HD video recorders because the common people are buying HD sets. They want cameras that can showcase THEIR sets, not someone else's sets. By all accounts the 4K products from Panasonic, Sony and Samsung are doing considerably better than they expected, so your thesis that the demand isn't there is wrong. Canon and Nikon are not tapping into that demand because they quite simply so not have any products in that market at all. (and please don't say market share bla bla bla, because you are looking at the entire market, not the prosumer market, which is quite different)

​Let me repeat it.....the people who are buying the mass produced HD screens are not the people buying high end cameras. The mistake you are making is looking at the entire camera market and comparing it with the entire TV market, rather than looking at only the high end consumer segments of those markets, which is where the high margins are to be had. The people buying high end cameras for the most part are also buying high end TV sets and probably upgrade them more frequently than the average consumer, because having the "best" stuff is a status symbol to them. You might think that only professionals or wannabe pros buy that sort of equipment, but in that price range the bread and butter of both markets is mom and pop with money to burn. That is the reality, it isn't you. The people buying 4K screens also represent the primary market for DSLRs in the $1500-3000 range. If I go down to Granville Island on a Sunday afternoon in summer, most people carrying stuff like 7D or 5D3 are housewives and uncle Bobs. They buy those cameras because they are expensive and want the best money can buy, within reason. Those people also represent the market for 4K panels, and when they shoot video clips they will want to display that on their shiny new TV sets. And guess what, Canons can't do that effectively. So they are failing to deliver in a critical market space. The failure of Canon and Nikon to include 4K video in their offerings in this market segment is a foresight failure of epic proportions.

​Yes, but that #49 probably coincides fairly well with the sort of people who buy prosumer cameras though, so it is very much THE market. The people buying HD sets right now likely have no intention of buying high end cameras for the most part for the very same reason - they cost more.

​That is because Samsung doesn't see impossible like Canon does . No one told them it couldn't be done, so they went and did it.

​I wouldn't pay too much attention to that......after all rumours around the 7D2 had it coming with 4K, but that wasn't there when the camera finally arrived. My reading of the exec's comments is that they are "thinking about it", in other words it isn't coming any time soon. That isn't to say that they will not have 4K products at NAB, but I suspect those will be cinema EOS and camcorders, not a hybrid like the GH4 or NX1. I think it is more accurate to say that they have finally realized that there is a market for such cameras but are not ready yet. If they do come up with something it will probably be half baked like the M cameras.

​The DPReview people didn't "discover" anything. It is clearly described in the manual. That those individuals couldn't comprehend the concept doesn't mean that it was "discovered".