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So the question is simple, would you buy a 5d mark III now? 

Absolutely not. Save your money for something useful!

Care to explain dear sir? :P

why every time there's something wrong in a camera the wedding market should embrace it? We are all fools? We all do only tripod shots of embalmed people? In my experience weddings are much more animated than that and rolling shutter is a serious issue.

 The wedding market could possibly lap this up.

 

 Yes, the wedding market of 20 years ago !  :P

Not a bad idea Andrew, i second what SleepyWill wrote:

 

 I ask is that there is some public section, even if you never go there yourself to allow us newbies to prove ourselves and if some few of us prove to be the type of people you want, that we can be highlighted to you somehow and get access!

Maybe one can become a 1° class user with a certain amount of likes or with you direct approval.

Maybe the reader could choose if hide or show the 2° class posts/comments, or there could be 2 sections of the forum: one where only 1°class users can post, and one open to all. 

 

I think the moderator thing is not effective because the moderator can filter the rough, off topic or offensive posts, but cannot make a selection based on the interestingness.

When did I specifically pointed out your "positive evaluation" as "hype"? theres a lot of press about this camera out there and thats what i mean by "hype" not your comments. 

 

I think the most part of the positive press we are reading around are sincere and not "hype". Most of us canon lenses owners are a bit scared of the incoming change. I tell you that: the only way we can save our beloved lenses is if Canon wakes up with something very new and very well priced.

Andrew gives me a strong impression that he just want to push people to just get the gh4. His comments always gives the vibe of "as compared to the gh4". The thing is that the gh4 just doesnt work for everyone. Yes it is awesome, yes is amazingly priced, yes it gives amazing images.. etc. but the problem is people have heavly invested on the canon lenses and some people dont want to sell their canon lenses to buy m43 lenses because m43 are less of a standard in case you want to upgrade later on. I could use my canon lenses on almost any camera but with m43 we simply cant. And yes the speedbooster exsist but we dont want to run through adapters and other quirky work arounds. There are just many things like this one i pointed out that are just too many problems...The thing is that i just want people to realize is that the gh4 is not perfect and you shouldnt just jump ship because of the hipe... and i know andrew is not puting a gun on anyones head to buy any one camera, hes just giving his opinion which is very valuable, I just feel like these articles are not as objective as they could be because of the hype. Just my two cents.

The "I have canon lenses" argument is not an argument IMO. You can sell them!
And when Andrew said his review are objective?

Too much numbers for my tastes: someone could please verify if the downscaled version grades better than the original?

I second Bioskop. You probably are confusing noise with the blotchiness of the codec, which is more evident in blurry images. 

I don't know, it's very very detailed (zeiss helps here) but has a bit too much aliasing compared to the gh4, and some extra noise for a S35 sensor. Still looking for a real gh4 competitor ;)

unable to download/watch the file, I just see a fixed image of something very blurry

Not that Sony is worried about the GH4.

Is not? So why they pushed out the a7s before being capable of internal 4k?

There's a massive difference in aperture size. 

And in the "power zoom" thing. and in the constant aperture...

Still don't know which will be the best deal, but one thing is for sure:

Time to sell your 5d3 or C-wathever.  :D

External only 4k is disappointing.
The 28-135 f/4 in development is very interesting, we have nothing similar for the gh4, too bad we don't know when all that sensitivity with that lens will be in the stores!

Thank you as always for your work Andrew!

One question: in my experiments with Pana G and Canon EOS the ISO settings over different cameras don't match perfectly. It's the same with the gh4 and 5d3? I mean at the same iso is one brighter than the other or are they roughly the same?

Would be nice to see the same test ungraded too!  :D

Every JVC GY howner knows that CCD is a joy. Great video and great location!

Canon has been smart enough to think at the market niche that buys more stuff and that doesen't care spending $3k more for a comfortable workflow: wedding videographers. 

Internal ND and Mic alone makes me slant for the eventual C200 over the gh4. It is worth extra 3k? If it makes the difference between doing simple and easy shots and changing 10 ND filters per day manually (and keeping it clean and scratch free), or loosing audio because of the mic off for 3 months consecutively, or looking like ropocop in a church.... yes it's worth it.

Stunning video, very emotional! love everything, also the music is great!

From what I've seen in the net the BM looks to have more DR. I't also smaller and lighter. However the m43 solution have less DOF, more wide angle options, smaller file size, 50, 60 and 96p, very good low light performance, better usability and of course, if you consider to use it in the future, 4k. Good luck with the choice! ;)

I appreciate you criticism as exposed in the last post. In the first one was just offensive. By the way my test reflects my needs that can be different from yours. I don't care matching exposures, i just need to know which camera will give me the more usable image in low light.

Sorry, fixed :D

Video updated with much more pleasant manual white balance in the Canon. But the exposure and noise issues are still there ;)

Please guys! I always set the white manually when I work. In this test I didn't because I didn't care.
There are so many aspects to consider when evaluating a camera and I wanted to focus only in sensitivity.

I will ASAP, at this point I' m curious to see what changes in practical terms. For now please take it also as an auto white balance test :-D

Come on now, how hard is it to use a proper white or grey card before posting these kind of tests ?

The only thing this test tells us is that you don't know how to white balance properly.

 

Do you own test and stop trolling.

 

If the colors more closely match, it will be easier to compare cameras. If you lower the color temp for the 5D you'll be able to get the images much closer.

 

True, I didn't set WB manually because my aim was to compare noise levels at high ISO. I know this test is unusable for evaluating color rendition, but I think it shows fairly well the noise.  I'll do a better one when Silvia will bring her camera again! ;)