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Perhaps try again and lower the WB temp on the 5D2 until it matches the GX7.

You think that will affect exposure and noise?

The light was a desktop neon lamp, I think around 5000k. My two 5d have always been yellowish, curiously only in video mode.

My experience with the 5D Mark II and ISO is that Canon kind of cheated a bit.
 
ISO 1600 is more like 800 or 1250 on other cameras.

That means at least two stops of disadvantage over the Panasonic! Interesting...

Yes, exposure is different, color, and aperture wasn't matched for same DOF.  However, tests seem similar to my mine.  The Panasonics are very sharp but colors a bit washed out.  The Canons colors are richer but the image softer.  Unless I was going to maximum shallow DOF and/or color saturation, the Panasonic gives the cleaner image.  What I concluded, at any rate.

Yes that was primarily a iso noise test. Wb was auto in both cameras

Yes, absolutely sure.

Hi everyone,
I just wanted to share with you a quick ISO test I did yesterday with a 5d2, a gx7 and the kind owner of the gx7 :).
Knowing the gh4 sensor will be similar to the gx7 one I think what follows is promising
Before you ask I don't know why there is so much difference in the exposure: maybe different lens transmission or different factory sensitivity calibration.
Viewing this test in the monitor surprised me so much I wanted to reshot everything, convinced that I had done something wrong.
Please download the original file, I leave you to the judgement

https://vimeo.com/90203597

Hi, it depends also on the camera you shoot with. The Eos cinema line for example has a true full hd image because every frame is downscaled from a 4k sensor. In that case i suppose you wouldn'n se any difference. At the least theoreticaly.

 

 

 

 

For those of us that actually own the camera -- there is no RS problem if one shoots as one should 24fps film.

 

 

 

there is no such thing as "should" in filming. Fast movements are allowed also in 24p and so are train stations ;) 

Hi.

I have the Sevenoak version of it. I can say coming from the ENG world I rather work with one grip than two so I feel very comfortable with it. 

Its very adjustable so i can use it with both XF300 and 5d2.

The balancing counterweight is mandatory! It gives you a very balanced setup but of course adds some weight.

Conclusion: try it with the balancer for 15 minutes then decide!

Very useful, thank you Andrew and Orangenz!

Maybe Panasonic or even third parties could also make different bricks for different uses. Maybe also with h.265, or internal battery, or internal SSD recorder, maybe without XLR audio or SDI video for who, like me, doesn't need it. 

Just guessing :)

Check

http://vimeo.com/m/89515795
Two great news here:
1) the micro hdmi in camera outputs live 4k 10 bit 422, not just 1080p downsampled;
2)low light is improved by at least 1/3 stop over the gh3. 0db is about 800 iso.

@leo 25 frames per second and the perfect moment happens when you are changing the memory card ;) Photography is photography.

True, i think it's better to use it with the YAGHthing in 10 bit 4:2:2

Thank you for sharing! What can you tell about low light?

100% true. If that's worth carrying around some more kg of weight is subjective.
Btw the bmpcc have a broader dof than the gh4.

A f/2 zoom with the 24-105 equivalent range does not exist in mft. You can get a 24-70 equivalent f/2,8

Given that both cameras will give you great HD videos for festivals and great photos for 40x60 exhibitions I think you should restrict your focus on 3 factors:

1)weight: we know who wins here ;)

2)DOF. Consider the DOF of a FF@f/5,6=MFT@f/2,8

3)cost: I think buying a good canon ff lens costs roughly as much as selling the canon kit and buying a GH kit from scratch.

E.

 
The MFT cameras are not great in low light -

Which is the last mft you tried? My gm1 in video mode in low light is roughly on pair with my 5d2. And I suspect a lot of noise is coming from the poor bitrate. No doubt a new generation fullframe beats any mft, but I'll start to call these toys "great" anyways ;)

What about wide angle?
 
Michael

Panasonic 7-14,
Samyang 7,5 fisheye,
Future olympus 7-14 2,8
Kowa 6mm
And the list is growing

If Low Light is the only thing you need I've no doubt the 5D3 is better, but not that much. For all the rest I would choose a GH3/4.

We're only arguing here. Personally I don't need a huge 6x6cm sensor. A 17,3x17,3mm would suffice for now (call it Micro 4/4). Maybe in the future a 24x24 (call it APS²) and a 36x36 (fullsquare).

nice names uh? :D

For the GH5 Panasonic needs to develop a 4096 x 3072 native resolution sensor to allow the 4096 x 2160 video without horizontal crop in the micro four thirds sensor, better shallow dof, better wide angle and better low light due to increase in pixel size. 

 

My dream: 4096x4096 square sensor.

16mega stills, no more vertical grip needed, the flash stays always on top of the sensor, no horizontal crop in 4k video mode, shallow dof, better wide, better low light. Theoretically all the lenses should cover the area.

Shooting square photos is fun, someone ever tried a 6x6 film camera?

Who knows when and if that dream will be true!

A wedding ceremony could be done at 1/50ss and take stills from the video, but only the ceremony IMO. I would never use that technique on a portrait/group/glamour shot. (Sciorio does that but he is selling animated portraits, not photos and video separately)

I will test that in the ceremony ASAP: imagine doing the same work with half the personal required to take photos and videos from multiple algles, without that annoying "click click click" all around in the audio track!

We often forget that Canon is not a innovator at all. The only real revolution they did, the 5DII, has been almost an accident! They didn't want to revolutionize the moviemakers industry!

Now they have a 4k sensor already in the C100 and C300: I think if the processor is up to the task they will enable 4k in that cameras before starting to put it in a DSLR under $2000.

If they do they can say goodbye to the entire CinemaEOS incomes.