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I think they completely messed up the d750 test. After I read all about the video being sharp on the D750 and someone posting that chart, I was a bit inquisitive. When I think you translate the article it is said that they took their chart with them and took the test on the show with on the displayed D750 !!!!!!!!!! I think it was more a case of being first and getting the scoop (I don't know if D750 warrants that example) that good methodology.

I have ask him to put it on vimeo, so we have a better idea of the quality in high ISO video. I think that at least until 6400 it is very good because these are really dark settings. Detail is preserve very well until the dark to very dark shadows. Some proper sample would give better idea because vimeo is mushing the images, but it looks very good.

I don't know if it looks that flat, at least compared to the normal profile. Is there a normal profile in Nikon?

In general ugly highlight clipping is due to manufacturers who want to maximise perceived and not necessary useful DR. It looks good also on chart because they are black and white so even if the highlight is reddish or blue, it will look grey and give a good stop or more DR reading.

There are many subtleties to codec like the gh2 hack showed. Like bframes cabac etc, so sometime manufactures don't use every feature because it is more processing intensive etc. I personally don't know for sure but it is more complex than just bitrate numbers.

From what I have seen of the D810 in the video above, it is very sharp but will lose at higher ISO. One thing to note is that images should also be judge noise and detail. For example I would either see if in camera high ISO NR can be set to see if it reduces noise and if it is to what level to match level of detail of the 5d Mark 3. Or use software like Neat image and match level of detail of 5D3 and see how they match. To tell the true story.

Thank you very much for the test. I second the poster above if we could get some clips in the flat mode with contrast set to minimum to download. It does not have to be artistry, just to grade and see. I would also like to know how different (if their is a difference) the 24/25 p is compared to the 60p.

They talked about it on the D810 video canadian video, when the fishermen comes out of his store. The auto ISO or smooth Iris automatically do the transition to keep the exposure the same and it does it smoothly. Some where saying how cool it would be to follow a bride from inside to outside or the contrary and exposure adapts automatically.

Some very strong and very costly ND, because above 1.2 you have to use the white water and IR version of those ND. Already shooting at base 800 ISO needed some strong ND for normal use. Now it is going to be even more difficult.

I think you cannot believe in any corporation advertising. If else you would think that Mac Donalds care about your health.

I think people should just let go. It was an accident, they rode their luck and identified new opportunities. At first the video implementation in the 5d2 was just a derivative of the live view and the fact compact and smartphone where shooting video. Then with the success they just ride their luck by releasing video to all their models and see how the market would move. In doing so they quickly tied many people to their lens system. Then they figured out that there was a group of professional that wanted more traditional video cameras and that were prepared to pay much more that. So they build the highly successful Cinema Eos line. So now they just put very small incremental update to their DSLR line, just to be relevant and nothing more. Good enough for 90% of their photographers who will shoot some occasional video. So in the end they did the contrary of what everybody was thinking by separating rather than convergence. Everybody thought that everything would converge when the dslr revolution started.

What would be also nice, would be 1 or 2 side by side scene with some contrasty lighting to test or just see the Dynamic range between D750 and Sony A7s. Low light would also be nice. I just saw that the A7s Slog can only be use at ISO 3200, am I right? If it is the case it is a bit useless.

I think in one of the comment or in the bts video of the Canadian video that the director said that they used the internal codec. Something of note is that in general the 60p in Nikon's is like 35/40 mbits per second than the 25 mps of the 24 p. The second solution is to wait for the Nikon hackers, they are around 60 mbits for the D800. The only problem is that they have not cracked the Nikon xpeed 4 until now. The particularity of the Nikon Xpeed 4 is that it is programmable arm chip, compared to the custom asic of the previous Xpeed. In the long run it would be very good because, they could programme functionalities like peaking etc. One thing that annoys me with Nikon is their low bitrate. By all account it is a very good implementation of h.264 but what would they have lost to put a 50mbit in standard 24fps and 70+ mbits in the 60p. It is as if they are married to Atomos even if the combo Ninja is very nice with the monitor and recorder functionality in a very compact package (smaller than a external Flash). But it would have put some headline and not force people to have to put another 300+ to get higher bitrate, more so that Atomos did not refrain from promoting the 5d3 clean hdmi output when it came out.

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Yes it would be really nice. I am leaning a lot to get this camera mainly for video and replace my D7100. I am a little anxious because I have seen videos of the D800 which is very sharp to my eyes and it would be big disappointment if the D750 is not the same rez. You never know with these companies, for example the D7100 is very sharp compared to the D5200 even if they share the same sensor.

You must use an external recorder. I had a gh2 and it is the same experience between the unhack low bitrate codec and the higher bitrate ones. The thing is that higher the noise the more information (even if it is only noise) the codec has to fit into the limited bitrate. So it start to remove detail where normally it is less seen in the shadows. I experimented it with the D7100 and Atomos, alas the D7100 also has banding.

They do, but no one listen or take notice in the video dslr world. Every new release from the D7100 and up had at least one highly features promotional video to back the launch. The problem is that they where late vs Canon which build a big momentum in video. When did bring something innovative they where rapidly superseded. When they did launch the D800/d4 about 1.5 years ago they where the first to give clean uncompressed HDMI out. But Canon feeling the pressure gave a firmware update to the 5D3 and Sony also followed it. It might look trivial today, but everybody was dreaming about high bitrate codec 3 years ago, the gh2 hack being the proof. Since then they did bring new tech and advancement or more refinement like no moire/aliasing, better ISO and now Flat profile, higher resolution and zebras. In the end all these thing are coming to fruition to produce some solid hybrid video dslr, with the best photo cameras and very good video. I am sure that we will see in 1.5 years when they update the D800/D4 four year cycle features like 4k, better liveview/video AF and hopefully for me some 10+ bit codec and LOG profile. Peaking would also be great.

I forgot to add that when thy will give you 4k in their dslr it will look more like true 1080p than true 4k as they are doing with their dslr now with their 720 supose 1080p rez camera.

Canon knows that on one side they have a large market inertia because of their lens system. A lot of people and pros don't go onto the web to inform themselves, just the name of Canon is enough for them and at worse when you try to discuss, the argument of Magic Lantern is the answer. They won't look that they can mos of these function already in some cameras or that you can get cheap screen with peaking/ false colour/zebras and even vectroscope. The last thing they will tell you is that they can get RAW, even if 99% of them have never used it or cannot because of the size and work-flow with the data. On the second hand, a big bunch of the videographers who came to DSLR for large sensor camera because it was the only affordable solutions 4 years ago will or have happily moved back to dedicated video cameras and will pay the extra or rent as they used to do. So don't expect too much from them for a while. They will be the last to implement 4k, high fps etc. Last year they still sold about 50% of DSLR and its more on the low end compact that sales are plunging. They will only change their stance if there are big market shift, but it will take much more time that we believe becuase of the market inertia.

For those who did not see it, an incredible production from Nikon Canada. Much much better than its USA counterpart. It is more static and much more in focus than the Family video above. The sharpness, details and DR looks very good. More so that in the BTS video they say they used only the internal codec.

On this thread, the OP days that it is even better. I think is more of the low light. My theory is that perhaps with the 36 megapixel sensor they cannot sample the same proportion for the final binning compared to the other 24 megapixel sensor they use. '?do=embed' frameborder='0' data-embedContent>>

May be you where the 100th person who ask him the same question during the day LOL. I might be joking a bit, but this can be true. Sometime your company might put you in a very embarrassing situation when you are at the forefront of the customers. After some time it can get a bit frustrating defending some position time and time again. On the other hand many time when you come from some big corporation and that business is more or less good, at least for them, the Cinema line seems to have been a success, you get very arrogant.

I forgot to add that they have innovated with the smooth aperture or ISO, which adjust the exposure automatically like for example when you walk into a room or outside the camera does it automatically and in a seamless way. This will be boon for event shooters like wedding videographers when they follow the bride from outside to inside of the church.

Nikon will put 4k in 1.5 years when they will release the successor of the Nikon D4 and D800/810 after their usual 4 years life cycle. With every smart phone that will support it in 2015-2016 and other camera manufacturers, they know they have to include it. Contrary to many belief here, they did innovate by being the first to have video in dslr with the D90 and secondly being the first to give clean uncompressed hdmi out that can recorded in high bitrate codec. In the last 2 years they have cured aliasing/moire as from the D5200, my guess is that they sample much more pixel from the sensor and do pixel binning. This also resulted in much better low light video performance with APSC camera coming very close to the 5D mark 3. They also have upgraded most of their camera since the d5300 with 60p at full hd resolution. In terms of resolution the d800 was nice but had moire/aliasing. Then you had D7100 which had no aliasing/moire but good resolution. Now the latest D810 seems to have very good resolution for a 1080p camera, hopefully it will be the same for the D750. In terms of DR, since the D800 most if not all of the Nikon's are about 12 stop DR in video. The latest D810 and D750 both include a flat picture profile, is it just a profile like the Flaat or technicolor for Canon, or does it come before processing and really extend the DR? Unfortunately no one tested it. They also added zebras in the D810/D750. So what we can see is that they are more evolutionary than revolutionary, at least for video. Sometime they where a little in advance and sometime late. I hope that they develop a mirror less system so that we can see where it is going and might satisfy some need. But I am not prepared to loose my optical viewfinder for an evf until it is clearly better and makes its proof as a reliable tool. Those Nikon are the ones that goes to war zone and space. More so that their are simple work-out like the back LCD (which is reported to be superb on the D810 and D750) which just need a $ 60 loupe to transform into an EVF. You also have a plethora of external EVF that you can attach to the hdmi or Cheap $ 300 Monitor that have peaking/zebras/false colour/vectroscope etc. What I am a bit afraid, is that with all the frenzy about 4k, that they forget things that are more important for me. Like at least higher bitare in standard, but more important of all, at least a 10 bit codec couple with a profile that extract most of the 14+ stop of the sensor. They could also be revolutionary, like giving raw output, but I don't think I am prepared for these type of data rate for now.

Thanks for the video. To my eyes it looks quite sharp and the low light 3200 ISO seems also very good. From first report on the photo side it looks quite good at high ISO and keeps better colour and dynamic range that the D800.