Huuow

Dont think we get specs out of them but maybe if you ask about the difference between the two panasonic ff.. So far we just know price and megapixels... Maybe they give us a hint. Is one just the little sister or has it certain features that the more expensive does not have.. 

"If they applauded him after the screening, then I would have been surprised."

didn´t he get standing ovations after?

"probably because they didn’t like the fact the fictional psychopath serial killer protagonist wasn’t extolling feminist virtues."

why so salty?

If you are in a movie, you are IN.. of course you know it´s fictional, but it doesn´t matter that much... I don´t know why I would want to see breasts cut off or lets say sadistic gore in general... I´m not getting anything but disgust and hate. I completly understand why someone would walk out of the theatre. I know what you mean with "personal offence" though - yes, maybe this film is a big fuck you in this direction - and rightly so.. but it is also a little bit too easy to get away like that.

1 hour ago, webrunner5 said:

Yes you are right. GPU's now do most of the "heavy lifting" as they say now in this day and age. They have a CRAZY amount of cores in them, compared to a CPU. It pays to get the best GPU with the most GB on it you can afford with Video Editing. The CPU can be a lesser model and still not be as noticeable as a better GPU can.

Would not advise that... the consens half a year ago was premiere eats fast clocking cpu preferably with 8 cores.. gpu is "neglegtable", and don´t go lower than 32gb ram... especially after effects renders significantly faster with more ram.. resolve on the other hand relies heavily on gpu and does suggest a 8gb card...

Insane machine you bought there ^^

But before anyone throws something out of the window by frustration... a computer for instance... Be sure that performance problems were not infact software related.. i ran into this piece of crap on my current project: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2193382

Quite common it seems and has especially problems with 4k and lumetri filters.... had to upgrade to cc 2017 as only fixable solution..

hmmm still loving that BMCC image... Sadly I need a run&gun style camera for my work...

BMCC + GH5 

Just now, cantsin said:

Sorry, but that's nonsense. Panasonic collaborates with Olympus, both companies jointly created the Micro Four Thirds system. And both have divided the M4/3rds market with Panasonic focusing on video hybrid cameras and Olympus on traditional stills cameras. Sony has more market share in mirrorless cameras than Panasonic and Olympus combined. Olympus even makes losses with its cameras that it only compensates with its medical imaging revenue.

Collaborate in creating a system... yes.. because one alone wouldn´t have had a chance... and they surely have set guidelines... but you still buy either a panasonic lens/camera or an Olympus.. or do they share their earnings?

Of course they don´t want the other to fail and retreat... but you cannot just divide a market like moses and everyone gets 50%... of course they are also competing with each other while creating new collaborations... see panasonic/fuji or olympus/sony

36 minutes ago, cantsin said:

The camera industry is currently fighting its crisis with steep price increases - in a dramatically shrinking market, profits can no longer be made through sheer volume, but through profit margins per sold unit. 

Some indicators: The official price for a Sony a6000 body official price was $650 when it was released in 2014, the price for a Sony a6300 body climbed to $1000 in 2016. The Sony A7s was released in 2014 for $2500, the A7s II in 2015 for $3000. Nikon has increased the prices for its lenses by 18% this year.

So:

• the GH5 promises be an as substantial update to the GH4 as the a6300 was to the a6000;
• the price increase from the a6000 to the a6300 was 54%.
• comparing Panasonic to Sony makes sense since both consumer electronics giants generally compete in the same markets, and are major competitors in the mirrorless camera market like Nikon and Canon compete in the DSLR market; 
• the GH4 body cost $1700 when it was released in 2014, an initial price of up to $2600 (53% increase) for the GH5 body could be possible, and wouldn't be excessive. 

 

still they wont go above 2k... that´s APSC and FF territory...

They don´t compete with Sony as much as with Olympus... They positioned themselves as a long run contender for highest quality video features in a DSLR style camera.. you know, a horse/system you can bet on... this feature set challenges every camera manufacturer, with every price tag, out there.. which makes absolutly sense because, every single one of the competitions lenses can be adapted.. but their immediate pricing is based on what the immediate competition, aka Olympus, has to offer..

the timing seems rigged ^^

http://www.43rumors.com/ft4-first-panasonic-gh5-spec-4k-422-10-bits-internal-recording/

1) The camera has no crop for 4K
2) 4:2:2 10 bits internal recording!!!!

sorry to hear... I lost my whole camera setup years ago this way.. in france.. along with my car and everything else lol.. I tried local markets the next days.. those markets where people just have a blanket on the floor and on it what looks like the inside of a travelling bag... had no luck. the car was seen one or two month later, two black guys trying to cross border to england... well.. english border control did not react fast enough and they got away..

since your case is already 20 days old.. i guess you are looking for a needle that someone might have dropped into a haystack, or somewhere else... :/

I kinda like my GH3... had the choice between Alpha99 and Mark III back then.. didn´t make an upgrade to the GH4, the 4k was not necessary for me at that time and the iq didn´t seem to improve significantly... Gh5 will be another crossing, stay in m43 system or go another way.. the sensor size, with its low light flaws is a real downer but Panasonics commitment of delivering surprises is indeed loyalty worthy... though.. it will probably just be the small extra tip on the scale if two cameras/systems tie...

I hope they improve their jpg/color engine... I´d rather take a lovely out of cam picture in favour of grading every single log clip just the little bit better..

stop worrying about your equipment.. it´s fine  ..ask yourself of the legal status of the project.. where will it be shown.. filming people in public for commercial is.. well.. not excatly legal.. at least not in my country.. and remember that every sound you hear.. if there is music somewhere in the distance.. you have to license for that right of use... I´d advice get in contact with the expo, you probably need a permission..  and also make up the story you want to tell.. don´t just hold your camera on things 4 days long.. good luck, do it and enjoy your learning curve

"somewhere in the world"... boy, you sure are a dreamer..

talk (precisly listen) to woman more often.. only advice I can give

Is it really so hard to believe that internal misogyny exists? of course they don´t say, I hate woman, therefore I hate this movie... but you know the pattern is kinda striking

and no.. it is not just kids, cause kids don´t care, except when educated by society.

8 hours ago, Cinegain said:

Please, indulge me. What would that say about me. You do realize this thread headed down that rabbit hole before I did, right?

When I mentioned being scared (and not me), it had nothing to do with the fact that there's different people out there. It's great that we as a society are so divers, anything else would make it boring and tough. I do however have a voice of concern with putting certain characters in the foreground for the wrong reasons or people actually abandoning treating everyone equally trying to be politically overcorrect.

To give you a few examples...

. Close to home, it's Conchita Wurst, born as Thomas Neuwirth, Austria, winner of the 2014 European Song Festival, performing as 'lady with a beard'

. Loiza, born as Lucas Lamers, The Netherlands, winning the 2015 edition of Holland's Next Top Model

I'm really under the impression that their talent is hardly the reason they won these contests and that it relies more so on the fact that one performs in drag and the other is transgender. These facts create stirr, hype and (global media) attention, but it also leaves people feeling uncomfortable not voting in favor of these individuals out of fear of coming across discriminating. So rather than voting on talent, which is what a talentshow should be about, people are put through on the fact that they are performing in drag or are transgender, in other words: their persona. Which I think is concerning, because equality would be that in a talentshow you'd get judged on your talent. Should they not have won, this would probably have been met with skepticism and people being acused of discriminating against people who are different, actually much like the controverse at the Academy Awards when it comes to black actors. Btw, then there's The Danish Girl that got nominated... 4 nominations and took 1 Oscar home (well done!).

But doesn't it seem like we're looking for things to be offended by these days? And that others go out of their way to make sure others don't feel offended that way?

. In The Netherlands traditionally on the evening of 5th of December, St. Nicholas comes to people's houses and bring gifts for the little ones. St. Nicholas is like Christmas Santa Claus, but instead of having elves help him out, he's assisted by Zwarte Piet ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwarte_Piet ). This is a joyous fest that has been going decade after decade... now suddenly everything's wrong with it, because people from different backgrounds and other skin color feel that St. Nicholas helpers are being held as slaves and that the black skin color (which can have multiple reasonable different explanations) of the helpers is in very poor taste. They want an end to this terrible joyous tradition for kids, because it's demonic. And what happens? These handful of people get their way and the helpers are now rainbow colored. Yes, now it's waiting for people that are offended by rainbows. Is that what we want society to be? Trying to please everyone because anybody can be offended by anything at anytime because they're just looking to find something to be offended about?

. Over here in Austria they know St. Nicholas as well. He doesn't have any helpers. It's either your with him, the Jedi and get gifts... or you are with the Dark side and get punished by Krampus (as by now you might have heard of since it made it into a movie). No controversy here about slavery or skin color. But... they've come up with problems of their own. You see, usually a grandpa, parent or teacher dresses up... of course, as Clark Kent would know, you have to make a change to your appearance or you will be recognised. So of course, St. Nicholas has a beard. What do they want to do here? They want to get rid of the beard! St. Nicholas's iconic feature. Because it does not allow children to read St. Nicholas' facial expression, leaving children unsure of his intentions and fearing this wicked man. Another thing is The Book of St. Nicholas, which is like a personal log in which he keeps track of which children behaved well over the course of last year and who didn't. This would lead to children feeling judged and not being trusted to behave well. So away with that too!

I don't know. We've become too sensitive. These things come up more and more, it's trending! People are easily offended. And we're so afraid of being acused of being politically incorrect, that we're politically overcorrect in that actually we're no longer treating everyone as equal. So, that's why I wouldn't be surprised if the next Bond were to be transgender, female, black or just no longer British. But it wouldn't be done because it would fit the story and the profile of James Bond 007, it would be done to be politically overcorrect and create some hype, so more a gimmick, really. Which is a pity, because you could very well create new stories, like The Danish Girl for example, that is a testament to individuality and acceptance without forcing it in somewhere just for the sake of it.

I guess here you would insert something saying that says a lot about you, but I honestly think that's looking to find something that isn't there.

All fair and well, discussable but not the main point I was referring to.

Heres my concern: by mixing transgender and other minorities with woman in the equality debate, you are simply draging womans rights down, leaving them debatable and attaching a certain level of ridiculousness. They are 50% of worlds population.. trans people are what? 0.1? No, I don´t think they have the same right of awareness. Women do not have an obligation to help everyone, they will only come out as losers as your example so finely presents: That Austrian music award: 0 Woman won a price, even in the femal section the winner was Conchita, a man (and plz don´t be fooled to think that the best just happened to be man)

I have never heard of that discussion about St. Nicholas and his beard, and I agree, if true, it is simply face palm worthy. On the other side, there are customs with a questionable origin.. I think you do know the game "wer hat Angst vorm schwarzen Mann?" Is it a tradition worthy keeping? Yes, in the museum of folk studies..

So, back to Ghostbusters. It has nothing to do with beeing politically correct (I know you agree with me here). It´s just a female crew which happens to be so unbelievable disturbing. I just wanted to highlight the fact it sparks the "what´s next" debate is a sneaky way of patriarchy defending their lands.

mentioning the fear of James Bond being transgender in a thread about female ghostbusters tells us more about you than you´d probably wanted to share  

but no.. I don´t support that idea either  

The trailer was disappointing. Didn´t laugh or even smirk a single time... still have hopes though, for Melissa McCarthy did an awesome comedy last year (Spy)

In my oppinion the genderswap is the most plausible reason to do a remake.. the other options would be: the aged originals (which is not really a good idea.. Sure I´d love to see Peter Venkman in action one more time but if the movie fails it would be so much more sad..) or a new male crew who takes over.. which is.. well, kinda boring.. also everyone is used to the old unique male characters and it would be difficult to accept new ones..

will watch and hope.

but back to topic: yes, the comments are about misogyny. really.. there shouldn´t be a discussion if it is or not. it is obvious.

do you have any experience with led fresnels? like litepanels sola series, lupolux or other portable-battery charged-daylight/tungsten switchable-low energy consumption yet high output-CRI>95-working horses... are we there yet :)?

keep in mind that the 7-14 has no filter ring... so no nd.. bright sun: say hello to f16 "sharpness"

That depends on the budget... If it is small, or the money of renting better lenses is more useful somewhere else, let's say you wouldn't have professional make-up then of course why not...

Rabbit hole of philosophy, that.

more like a grammar hole... srsly what?

I´m pretty sure the reactors in Germany were amongst the safest in the world... the more I´m impressed by this very drastic action. There will always be something... Why take chances?

Yes all correct.

 

But still no tsunami or magnitude 9 earthquake in central Germany. Odd.

lol what, you still need your earthquake?

I agree with Inazuma... 35mm (ff) is a pretty sweet focal length

I´d say get the Panasonic 12-35. The autofocus is very fast, excellent if you are in a hurry with either filming or photography. It has an IS, so you can do some dirty shots without looking too dirty... and the olympus 45 f1.8 for portrait reasons.

Later on the Panasonic 35-100 to complete a good zoom range and the olympus 17 f1.8.

If you have the budget, also as Inazuma said, you could switch the two olympus with the equivalent voigtländers 17.5 f0.95 and 45 f0.95...

you´re better off using one camera... except you maybe want to install one of them somewhere to do a timelaps or whatever. As for audio, grab a preamp with xlr input, microphone -> preamp -> camera. I don´t know about the possibilites for audio managament in certain cameras, but if possible, turn down the level to one stop before zero.

the Juiced Link seem to be ok for what I hear: ~ 3-400$, also Sound Devices of course, the cheapest one also 400$... these are no recorders though. You have to link it with the camera. pro: you don´t have to sync the sound in post, good sound quality. con: requires a bit of camera hardware like mic input, headphone input and some basic rigging.

If you want extern recorders, there are tons of cheap ones, which maybe get the job done, but really are not very good. 100-400$.

As for mics, depending on background noise, clip ons are probably best and since you want just the voice - mono is fine. ~200$ for a rode for example.

With lights things get a little more tricky. Normally I wouldn´t try my luck with ambient light. I know you from the 43rumors forum and know you love your voigtländers :) I´m not concered that you can´t get a good apperture but when it comes to highlighting a face you are pretty limited in your options without some basic lighting. You can work with some cheap led panels, but this light will be hard to control and need heavy diffusion to look ok. Also take a good look at their color temperature and what color temperature you will have to deal with... hospital.. guess a lot of fluorescent lights, which depending on type can range from 2700-6500 Kelvin + theres lots of indirect sunlight... so well :) I´d recommend using the light from windows as key + a daylight led for some highlighting...

So, all in all, it would be quite an investment... Guess you have to ask yourself if you want to do more of that stuff and already get some gear you wont be unhappy with or and since you don´t get paid anything you just grab a bouncer and a cheap voice recorder and be creative :)