Jacek

Huh? :blink: Can you explain your Canon/Nikon theory? Hint: Canon is making 4k DSLRs (1DC, C500). Canon/Nikon do not invest in consumer level cameras video features almost at all (even 2k) - they make still cameras.

There is filter thread already...

Does anybody know what is the effect of changing aspect ratio in ‘4K Photo mode’? http://au.panasonic....pire creativity "4K video recording capability also supports ‘4K Photo mode’, which allows photographers to capture spur of the moment shots by cutting out individual frames from 4K video to create a 3840 x 2160 8-megapixel equivalent JPEG image. In this mode, the luminance level is adjusted to 0-255 which is suitable for photo. Users can also select any aspect ratio (4:3, 3:2, 1:1 or 16:9) when shooting in 4K photo mode by using the aspect switch."

LX100 has it already: http://au.panasonic.com.au/News+and+views/News/2014/September/LUMIX+DMC+LX100+Designed+to+inspire+creativity "4K video recording capability also supports ‘4K Photo mode’, which allows photographers to capture spur of the moment shots by cutting out individual frames from 4K video to create a 3840 x 2160 8-megapixel equivalent JPEG image. In this mode, the luminance level is adjusted to 0-255 which is suitable for photo. Users can also select any aspect ratio (4:3, 3:2, 1:1 or 16:9) when shooting in 4K photo mode by using the aspect switch." EDIT: But I don't think it works how we would like it to work (not much usefull for video)...

Only one question: Can you mount it on Panasonic LX100? :D

It would be nice if you could check: - how fast/accurate the zoom works, - how effective the stabilization is? (can you produce stable image at least on widest end of zoom)

Some 4k samples:

-small -Great OSS zoom with wide end f1.7 (like prime lens) -evf -fantastic manual controls For me it's complete, perfect camera. I'll buy it as soon as possible in my country.

It is not touchscreen. They made a mistake on dpreview: http://***URL removed***/previews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-lx100?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=features-default&utm_medium=homepage-block&ref=features-default

It is smaller so maybe because of overheating it is limited to 15min 4k, doesn't have 200Mbit FHD and 96fps.. Or they are just protecting gh4.

Its here: http://m.dpreview.com/previews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-lx100/4

12-35mm f2.8 is made by Panasonic and LX100 has cheap Leica lens.. :blink: :lol:

Leica LX100 main difference in design is the lack of nice grip.

Just add 150 euro and you will have Leica badge also on the body (not only lens): http://www.photoscala.de/Artikel/Leica-D-Lux

The beauty of multi-aspect sensor usage is that they could make smaller lens sacrificing 4:3 image format (1.12 crop) but maitaining almost whole 16:9 image (1.03 crop). But who cares anyway (probably my wife which will use it as stills camera)? The UHD is the same crop as GH4, so for me they could make the lens even smaller, just to cover UHD video :) .

If you are more interested in photography, the common 4:3 ratio is: 4112 x 3088 vs 4608 x 3456 = 1.12 crop (vs m43 sensor)

No. Its almost the same as GH4. (And in UHD it is exactly the same). http://***URL removed***/products/compare/side-by-side?products=panasonic_dmclx100&products=panasonic_dmcgh4&sortDir=ascending Depends on image ratio. In 16:9 format it is 4480 x 2520 crop from maximum (like GH4) 4608 x 2592. Simple math (crop from m43 area): Horizontally: 4608/4480 = 1.03 crop Diagonally: ... = 1.03 crop Surface area: 11943936(4608 x 2592) / 11289600(4480 x 2520) = 1.06 ratio (square of crop) And what is most important for us on this forum (I suppose) is 4K video crop. In UHD both GH4 and LX100 are the same 3840 x 2160 crop: horizontally: 1.2 crop diagonally: 1.2 crop Surface area: 1.44 ratio (square of crop) Info: From wikipedia (not sure if true): The most commonly used definition of crop factor is the ratio of a 35 mm frame's diagonal... ...the ratio of sensor areas is the square of the crop factor.

http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/cameras-camcorders/lumix-digital-cameras---point-and-shoot/compact-cameras/dmc-lx100.specs.html f = 10.9 - 34mm/(24 - 75mm in 35mm equiv in 4:3, 3:2, 16:9) /(28 - 88mm in 35mm equiv. in 1:1) /(28 - 87mm in 35mm equiv. in 4:3 in 4K Photo recording) /(27 - 84mm in 35mm equiv. in 3:2 in 4K Photo recording) /(26 - 81mm in 35mm equiv. in 16:9 in 4K video / 4K Photo recording) /(32 - 101mm in 35mm equiv. in 1:1 in 4K Photo recording) Also interesting: Continuous recordable time (motion pictures) AVCHD Approx. 120 min (FHD/50p), Approx. 125 min (FHD/50i) MP4 Approx. 90 min (4K/25p), Approx. 120 min (FHD/50p) Actual recordable time (motion pictures) AVCHD Approx. 60 min (FHD/50p), Approx. 60 min (FHD/50i) MP4 Approx. 45 min (4K/25p), Approx. 60 min (FHD/50p) but in the same time: NOTE - Maximum time to record motion pictures continuously with [MP4] in [4K] is 15 minutes. What's wrong with your language people?!! I don't get this english bubble... :D Continuous recordable time (motion pictures) ≠Actual recordable time (motion pictures) ≠Maximum time to record motion pictures continuously UHD looks like GH4 quality: 3840 x 2160 pixels, 24p (4K: 100Mbps / MP4), but FHD not: 24p (FHD: 24Mbps / AVCHD)

The same crop as GH4 but with incredible stabilized lens (show me small stabilized 11mm/1.7 lens for GH4, not to mention such zoom). Awesome I would say, not disappointing :)

Can You please ask them at Photokina what is the maximum 4k bit rate (have seen 100Mbps somewhere) and max recording time? Looks awesome! Mini GH4 with excellent zoom for half the price.. where is the catch?

1. Who cares? 2. One step less in post (cropping) 3. Maybe there is a difference for electronics if it reads less pixels (max frame rate, battery life...) 4. Who cares?

They say its m43 but used as smaller multiaspect. So maybe in 16:9 it is same crop as gh4 4k.

If these rumors are correct and latest 850 euro price rumor.. http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-panasonic-lx100-costs-845e-its-going-to-be-the-best-fixed-lens-compact-ever-made/ It will be fantastic! Only hope the lens has stabilization and filter thread. No more wishes.

Me too.

Wait 2 weeks for photokina. www.photokina.com