Andrew Reid

For years Canon have been saying this is why they don't push the video specs to the limit. Reliability is key, blah blah! And they suddenly do a U-turn for marketing reasons!!

You can only go on average 10 mins longer in the 4K HQ mode. So that's not good either. I think I'll get the EOS R6 instead or wait for Sony

It's not about having just one camera - two, three, A and B, all fine... It's about getting through a take! Which you may not be able to do with EOS R5. So what's it doing on set at all?

No anamorphic but the image may stretch if you reach 30 degrees C!

Magic metal heat pipe. If you look at laptops they have copper heat pipes to move heat out from the critical components and towards the edges of the chassis where there are radiators, vents and fans. Not much magic about it, it is standard practice in the electronics industry. Canon for whatever reason did not bother to implement the required cooling on the EOS R5, likely to keep size, weight and cost down. Also, with it being weather sealed, a fan and vent is a tricky thing to engineer. However the Panasonic S1H managed it without compromising weather sealing much. So the camera randomly shutting down in the middle of a very important take is fine then? "Hey we lost the shot!" "But that's ok" "Let's switch to that ALEXA waiting in the corner!" Who runs a production like this?

How can anybody trust it for paid work with this problem? It is unworkable on set. Imagine telling the entire crew and actors to go and sit down with a cup of tea for 20 minutes while the camera cools off? No wonder Canon does not consider the EOS R5 specs to cannibalise the Cinema EOS series. This guy's reply said it best:

So much clutter on that image. How does anyone shoot like that?

Did you read the article? The 4K/60p and 4K/30/25p/24p overheats in a similar way to the 8K. Instead of 20 minutes it is 30 minutes. Once the overheating warning comes on, you're basically screwed. Shoot over. You have to wait 10 minutes and then the 30 minutes cap becomes 10 minutes! This rules the EOS R5 for a vast array of work. No interviews. No wildlife. No live events, no weddings. And we have yet to see if the overheating warning comes on during normal sustained use without long continuous takes. If we shoot in 10 second bursts but leave small gaps in-between takes, will the time add up eventually to 20 or 30 minutes and the same heat situation rear its head? I would wait to see what Sony has in the pipeline. Overheating cannot be ruled out with quick successions of shorter clips either. As was the case with our famous friend, the Sony A6500.

I would give this a read first

Wow the overheating is bad. How can anybody go into a paid shoot, knowing they will at random intervals have to wait 10 minutes for the camera to cool in an OFF state, before only being able to record for another 10 minutes? Don't think it will be exactly Netflix approved with that behaviour.

New blog post: https://www.eoshd.com/news/canon-eos-r5-has-serious-overheating-issues-in-both-4k-and-8k/

Some 8K footage in this Canon Australia video

It really needs a pre-roll feature for 4K/120p, cache record.

It is a pity 5.5K RAW remains 1D X III only for now. And a pity about the 4K 120p file sizes. And a pity about the overheating. Bit of a shame about the rolling shutter in 8K and 4K 24p for cinema style shooting. I'll wait to see what Sony come out with I think.

https://www.eoshd.com/news/my-thoughts-on-the-canon-eos-r5-8k-monstrosity-1tb-footage-per-50-minutes/ Yes the 4K/120p is sadly ALL-I only at 1880Mbit. Absolutely huge.

The Sigma Fp can also record BRAW externally though, as well as 2K RAW to SD card - so a lot cheaper solution if you need RAW recording. I don't use the 8bit 4K RAW internal much on the Fp either due to the file sizes.

Canon have finally admitted that their approach to video in the past has been wrong and maybe – just maybe – EOSHD was right! With the EOS R5 apparently video users are important again, even outside of the Cinema EOS range. But are the flagship 8K RAW and 4K/120p modes of the EOS R5 actually practical to shoot with on a day to day basis? At times the crippling has felt almost personal. Alas now Canon’s sales are down so that’s all in the past. They want our goodwill back, and most importantly they want us to open our wallets. $4000 for the camera. $5000 for 2 or 3 lenses. Perhaps another $2000 in CFexpress cards just to get through a few hours of 8K RAW recording. New blog post: https://www.eoshd.com/news/my-thoughts-on-the-canon-eos-r5-8k-monstrosity-1tb-footage-per-50-minutes/

Weak pound. Brexit. Import duties. High VAT. And probably Canon UK marketing department feeling cocky.

With the price of the EOS R5 set at £4199 here in the UK, that is firmly pro-territory, but Canon has an enthusiast version too which will be the focus of many at EOSHD. The Canon EOS R6 is a competitor to the Sony A7 III, Panasonic S1 and Nikon Z6. It brings 10bit to the table over the 8bit only Sony & Nikon - and Dual Pixel Autofocus to the plate which is an advantage over the Panasonic cameras. Canon users will also like the fact that the EOS R6 at $2500 / £2500 puts a lot right for video users compared to the disappointing first EOS R. New blog post: https://www.eoshd.com/news/canon-eos-r6-shoots-10bit-4k-60-but-no-raw-how-it-compares-to-the-eos-r5/

I had to stop watching the Canon faux-live feed. It was torture!

The virtual launch of the EOS R5 and R6 is now available here. Enjoy! https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/virtual-product-launch

Boom goes any hope of decent rolling shutter performance in 4K/24p. 4K 60p will likely have some moire issues. Or maybe a crop. Oh dear. That's more like it. Less rolling shutter, no binning. Good. Sounds like R6 is one to have. Shame it doesn't have 4K/120p though. It's still bayer 4K on both cameras. Downsampling from 8K compared to from 5.1K, with both ending up at 4K - you'll be hard pressed to see a difference in detail. The rolling shutter will kill the 4K on the EOS R5 - that is something you WILL notice!

Even Photoshop (2020) is getting worse now. They are working very hard to go backwards in every way. Wish the competition would get their act together. At least with video we have Resolve but for Photoshop there isn't really much else.

I've not got the Hasselblad HC to V adapter - is that possible? Got the HC to GFX adapter though and that works nicely.

The euro price is including VAT at 16% (it's been lowered due to the virus but is still high). When you buy a camera in the US from B&H at $3899 what is the final price including tax? Depends on your state? In the UK and Europe, £4500 looks a lot worse than £3899 and it will tank sales in this region more than Canon expects.