Andrew - EOSHD

No, one is in the PR industry and I am in the camera industry ?

Yes let's!!

Why do you always have to make things personal? Can't I just be critical of someone's trashy K-pop video and not be jealous that he has a camera and I don't!? You are bringing ego into it where it doesn't exist. The videos he's doing just aren't my thing. Not art-house enough. It's pop tart trash. Has it's audience, but I'm not into it. I am sure he is a lovely guy. You are misinterpreting it then. Easy to do on the Internet. You're forgiven, but please... Get a separation between the criticism of someone's work and someone's personal character, ok? Two different subjects altogether!!! Blackmagic are in Knutsford, it's just where they based an office. It was before the BBC moved up to Manchester I think. Most of the camera companies are based in a small area between Reading / London. Just happens BM are up North. Good to see that. They didn't see the view count on the forum thread and I haven't been proactively boasting to them about my site stats Yes followed Alan Roberts for a while. Personally I think it's too science based and there is more to a camera image than just science.

It matters that they covered Blackmagic it in the past. The way the internet works is you cultivate an audience based on subjects. The Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera is for the EOSHD crowd and the URSA is more in line for the Cinema5D audience. You only have to briefly glance at the front page of both sites to see that, don't you?! That's not in the UK so not expecting to be invited.

It's a clash of personalities and philosophies. It does happen in life. Shit happens. Johnnie puts a lot of emphasis on the STATUS of being a pro and not enough on the art-form. Nino once met me in Berlin and half way through the chat he broke off for 10 minutes to answer a call. Businessman first and foremost, friend second. They're not my colleagues, we don't work for the same company, and I am not out to please other bloggers who I don't respect. Only the ones I do respect. I care about my real life friends and readers

Yes exactly. Surely me and Philip together, have a much larger reach to GH5 / Pocket users, than Nino/Johnnie? Did Cinema5D even write any Blackmagic Pocket camera articles prior to this? It is all cine lenses, audio boxes, cages, pro cameras.

Yeah it's great. I think things can be sorted out very quickly on a forum. Imagine all those angry people PHONING Blackmagic pro support instead over and over again. You sort a problem out once on the Forums and everyone else can benefit all at the same time. If I ran a camera company I would 100% have a dedicated forum for the products and just be honest about having all the issues out in the open. OK the aim with the K-pop guy is that content is going to come out of it. So they won't necessarily be selling direct to his 300,000 subscribers but will have the tits and ass videos to sell the camera to US I don't necessarily agree it's a good strategy and think it's tacky when you could have someone like Darren Aronofsky use one instead. But taste is a pretty personally thing. Yuk sums it up LOL. I think stuff has gone out world-wide, tons of demo cameras seeded to influencers. We didn't get one here, and I think that is a miss. PS Don't ever become a psychologist @Kieran. LOL.

Yes I understand that from first hand experience but in an unconventional way. If I didn't shoot or were quite shit at it, EOSHD wouldn't exist! I would be completely broke. No food on my table. No. My art videos are my indirect living and my blog is my direct living (Pro Color, guides). So in that sense I am no different to you. We're on the same page dude.

Depends on the "art" Dan. I like a lot of stuff out there. Check out Kendy Ty. This is so motivating. We are all in the same boat! Just trying to share what we know. There are people who just want to self-promote and glorify themselves by cozying up to camera companies and getting views. I am glad you've actually been HELPED by the blog and enjoy the technology. Remember that article about the Samsung NX1 "the glory of technology", I think that's my passion rather than fitting into public relations expectations. I am a nerd. Not a social climber.

Do I constructively criticize you by starting with a string of insults? No!

I have zero to gain by talking to you Kieran. I know a troll when I see one! @seanzzxx That is true. Blackmagic have their own forum as well, which is good on their part but also reduces support costs maybe? RED also of course have a forum but's not on the official website. Canon don't have anything.

Yeah the Digital Bolex footage was inspirational. THAT camera was in the right hands, absolutely. I am bored over the over-commercialised, over-stylised trash. Interesting remarks. I once shot a video for the DJ Paul Van Dyk and got EOSHD mentioned in the YouTube description. Van Dyk has Millions of followers worldwide. I got like... what... 20 referrals? It's the RELEVANCE of the audience to the product that matters!!! This comment is a disgrace. Why do you expect to continue to profit from my site in terms of your camera knowledge, whilst being so personally aggressive? There is a big difference between critiquing the video of a music video producer on your own forum, to going into his house and calling him a resentful and spiteful person who doesn't show kindness or tolerance.

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Thank you. I am a bit discouraged I guess. It's hard to have every living day taken up by your obsession, when you just get a load of snide remarks thrown at you constantly on your own Facebook page and Forum, by trolls who are getting all these articles and useful tips straight out of my head and off my back. They'd have the shirt off my back as well I think.

I am not slating the guy. K-pop videos are just not my artistic bent. I know it is the Trump-era and people are a little sensitive about criticism just like him. You can't seem to critique the work of someone these days without it coming across as you hating the living daylights of the person who made it. I certainly don't hate. I just like to think objectively, that something like this from me, aimed at 800,000 camera users, would have been more useful and Blackmagic would have sold more units. But what the fuck do I know? Maybe it needs more arses?

I don't even think 300,000 subscribers mean jack shit if they are not there for camera news. They are there for K-POP videos and don't care what camera those are shot on. Even if he sells all his Cinema EOS or RED gear and uses the Pocket 4K on his future KPOP videos, one it might not be the right tool for the job, and two it would go out to a sea of disinterested non-camera people who are there for the music instead. He could put a link to the camera in the description and I suppose Blackmagic is expecting a sales hike that way? Hmm. I don't understand this fascination camera companies have with pros and their amazing viewing figures. If you are going to seed a K-POP audience, you better hope they are all filmmakers in need of RAW! Otherwise you get what? 10,000 views, 90% of them disinterested wondering why they are watching a video full of giraffes and flamingos rather than tits and ass? Blackmagic's strategy is flawed. I am sorry but it is. Very respectfully I am going to have to put my point to them when I next chat. Shane Meadows has shot with Blackmagic cameras. At least give him a call? No?

14,000 views. Oops. See what happens when you take the sexy KPOP girls out a Youtube vid?! You take the sexy ass wiggling out and what have you got... just a nerd with a new camera Nothing against the guy, but I have no clue what Blackmagic are expecting from this strategy. How many KPOP fans are there for the girls and music, and how many of his subscribers are interested in a Pocket 4K Camera?!

What's the point of giving the first cameras to pros then? Everyone will have their own personal opinion but I think the footage just shows that lacking IBIS hurts handheld shooting. Until I have shot a great variety of Cinema DNG clips to grade, I am not able to judge the camera. In this video, the footage looks no better or worse than a GH5S, A7 III, etc. LOL. Was that not already obvious to you from any everyday shoot with any camera? You suddenly learnt that useful info from this clip did you... Oh.. Ok. The rolling shutter should be ok as it is the same sensor as the GH5S, 13ms readout. Yes, important not to be personal. One can critique a video, without being personal about the artist. I am just saying he did not put his best foot forward with this work, and it's a very primitive test video shot like stills. I think, if you're going to have the privilege of one of the first demo cameras you should be doing a lot better stuff than that, that's all. So this is his best work, a load of tits and ass. 3m views though, which gives you an idea of why he has a demo camera!

Which makes the effort of the shoddy P4K video even more baffling. No jealousy, just objective fact. It's not a piece of cinematography worthy of any kind of artistic standard.

The great thing about the P20 and P20 Pro is the DNG RAW. You bypass the over processing and get 7K raw files to play with... IN-PHONE. Switch the camera app to Pro mode and download the app Polarr.

Maybe we should have a "critics" style blog post where we critique the pros who shoot this crap and maybe give them some tips. The official Nikon Z7 demo reel grade, the John Brawley model outcall sessions, the X-T3 60p stuff, let's help them so they can be better

I am pretty unimpressed with the footage as well, it's not a good showcase for the camera. First problem is it seems to be shot like a stills shoot. I am sure in isolation some of the frames make nice photographs but as a video it doesn't hold up at all, there are no ideas or mood to it, or any purposeful camera moves or edits to support the content. Several shots underexpose the skin tones 2 or 3ev making her look about 20 years older, the handheld shots are wobbly and add nothing to the aesthetic, the tripod sections are shot like a stills shoot with the model trying to pose for stills, but the only difference is that the photographer has pressed the video button instead of the shutter release. Is this supposed to be an example of the "pro" approach to filmmaking? Is this supposed to be Blackmagic's strategy to put the camera ONLY in the hands of actual PROS rather than just reviewers? Because it's not speaking well for either their capabilities or the camera's capabilities.

He should have filmed the video whilst sipping a mojito from a deckchair on a beach whilst wearing a Canon baseball cap on backwards, it would have about the same credibility. Yes let me get my money out once more, I am so eager to spend $2300 on a 1.8x crop 4K camera with no IBIS and lenses with no wide angle end. BARGAIN!

LOOOOOL That article really makes me want to run out and drop $3000 on a full frame lens so I can enjoy it in 1.8x crop. No, not annoying at all. NOOO. I like the jibe at me as well in the article, even though he doesn't mention EOSHD, I know who he's talking about! Also this gem.. "video production was not a focus for this camera" Did he see ANY of the marketing on Canon's own website? They bang on and on about video in it.

60P adds a documentary-like realism to the footage but it isn't in the least bit cinematic. 24p all the way for me. Camera is looking like a great buy BUT let's not get TOO carried away and hype it to death. It is not THAT much better than a NX1. Maybe in low light and for 4K slow-mo from that 60p. It will be superseded quite soon by an X-H2. Maybe as soon as in 6 months. Something to be aware of, for those who need IBIS and superior ergonomics.