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no 12 bit codec (whether it's PR444 or raw) makes it kind of DOA for me. that tended to be kinefinity's main selling point imo. conceptually its cool, but I just got a BMCC6K FF for 1500 euros second hand as a B-CAM. same sensor, same open gate capability, gives me an option to use an EVF as well, and it lets me do more in the grade.

Dammit, v7 had a mistake in it, so re-exported and uploaded it.

How is that any different to any other camera manufacturer ? Canon gave us the cripple hammer and cameras that overheated because of a timer. If you have a list of 7 attributes for your forever camera, no camera manufacturer will give you all 7, perhaps 4 at best... Your correct, its because i tend to stick my head in the sand. It's a basic defense mechanism designed to help avoid additional financial trauma to my wallet.. That new laowa zoom seems interesting, i'll have to keep an eye out for that. I hope gopro don't go broke before they release the ils, as i would still buy it counting on the fact that my gopro 9 still works after i don't know how many years of ownership. I did rewatch the potato jet vid and i thought that the warping was better controlled / less obvious then previous models, anyone else notice that ? My oly 12mm probably wont work with mission1 ils but every other vintage lens i own should, whether they actually resolve to 4k or higher might be an issue. I'm trying not to over think it considering that with a 2.7 crop there's a chunk gone off the top, bottom and sides leaving the center portion which is usually the best bit, i'm prepared to call it character and live with it unless its a really obnoxious look. From what i have seen with those that have a ils to play with, it seems like they all had phones or monitors hooked up. So my first though was that it would have to be rigged to be useful. Which is about a 180 degree turnaround to how a normal gopro is used. That seems obvious to me and doesn't strike me as an impediment at all. I mean look at all the smallrig accessories potato jet had at his disposal.

This is correct. Depending on the emulsion, grain is also not sized uniformly. And since you posted the Take 2 Films' tour of Kodak, it's also worth pointing out their latest film is comparing a couple of different film stocks and methods of processing them. This aligns with something that I frequently say - "film look" is meaningless as a phrase, given that different films have different characteristics - and depending on processing, can take on even more other characteristics.

Interesting about diffusion in the mids only (I think that's what you mean). It could be that film has different levels of detail in different tonal ranges. (I don't know.) These seem to have something not quite right about it to my eyes. The grain seems too fast, as in 30 FPS, not 24. Also the grain looks electronic and not chemical. Just something about it and the way it changes each frame.

I was chatting with ChatGPT about the look of cinema and it gave me some things to think about, one of which was experimenting more with diffusion, which I don't think I've really found a good way to emulate in post. This is v6 of the test shots. Changes made are: Slightly less softening Less gate weave, just because I don't really like it Lowered Midtone Detail as a sort-of diffusion method Definitely a work in progress, but if anyone has any strong opinions on this then happy to hear them.