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i feel c300 og is more cinematic than c100 2. maybe the olpf on c300 og is better.

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c300 og has very good low light, according to my test. have not tested c100 2 yet. c300 og noise pattern is organic, not disturbing. can go iso 25600 if the in camera denoise is maxed. can go iso 6400 if the denoise is standard.

i think c100 2 may be one of the best ergonomic cinema camera. i use it without the top handle. it is just like dslr with angled evf and swivel lcd and all hard buttons. with efs 18-135 or efs 10-18 stm is, handheld can have good enough stable footage, auto focus is good enough for general street scenes.

for human faces and skins, it is true wide dr is great. rarely need post cc. also 60p 1080p means you can do quick pan and tilt without blurring the footage.

resolution is enough with my mba m4, especially, those takes on wide angle rocky mountains. some shots missed the focus on the talent faces. if focusing right, the faces will be clear too. color is great. how much the latest crop can improve more on this 10 year old clip, not sure.

10 bit is more robust for color grading, from my hands on experience. however, c300 og and c100 mk ii have very good presets in camera. the need for post is minimal. if you use clog instead of baked in presets, then do minor cc is ok, dont expect heavy cc. but sensor wise, c cinema cameras have much better sensor operational ranges than mirrorless, even high end mirrorless.

those photogs are veterans with 30+ years experience, all have best nikon, canon, pentax, etc lenses. been there. ml raw on 5d3 can do 10 bit uhd raw. ml raw at 10 bit and above especially at 14 bit, is vert different from typical mirrorless raw or 10 bit preres h.265. been there. 14 bit raw itself is unparalleled even now.

i doubt r50 has better video quality than 5d3 ml raw.

I remember a story I learned from a famous photo forum. A group of veteran photogs prepare a set of chosen photos for Leica photo exhibition. Only photos taken from Leica lenses are allowed. Some smarties think they can trick Leica Reps by using best lenses from other brands. They intentionally put these best photos of theirs into the chosen set, yet all are sieved out by Leica Reps. They then believe that Leica taste exists.

I always suspect that the current crop of high dr sensors tuned for high dr but sacrificed other aspects. Using OM1 as an example, it is very nice in 60p photo mode, especially the dr is impressive. Yet, when I use some vintage lens on 5d3 with ml raw, something just looks different, scientifically not explainable, yet it is there. Aesthetically, I really like this subtlety.

I have one e500. Small, coupled with oly 43 25 f2.8. Good for travel. The lens has some distortion. The camera is not good at night. Other than that, it is good to use. Color is good at iso 100. At iso 400, it starts to smear. I brought it to DC once as my sole traveling gig. I like it except limited use at night.

This lens breathing is what I experienced, at F8 or F5.6, even at F4. I will try MF. Thanks a lot for the input.

i used +1. will try 0 for moving.

120p photo is still the best in terms of sharpness. colorwise, although good enough, neither art filter 1 nor hlg 10 bit is as good as the 14 bit ml raw or f3.

The Oly 25mm f1.8 is good at mid range, not as good as zf at infinity.

At 25mm the IBIS is very stable, but jerky when panning or tilting. The color can be very good. The dr is still good when pushing the sat and the contrast. Again, two thumbs up to the OM1. A hidden gem.

Just did OM1 Oly 25mm F1.8. I am very impressed by the dr. The sharpness is good enough. I think the generic focal reducer caused the lacking of sharpness in previous shots. The Oly 25mm F1.8 sometimes pulses in continuous AF in video mode.

From your screen shots, I feel that OM1 has better dr than GH7. I use art filter 1, which is a high sat high contr filter. On EM5, the dr is too narrow, although I like the color and the contrast, I kind of don't not like the whole pictures. On OM1, it is very usable, I get good contrast, good color, and relative good dr, at least the dr does not distract my eyes.

i like high contrast high saturation style too. for landscape, i push as much as i can. really pushing the sensor and the dsp to their limits.

finally, you take the gh7 bite. a very good choice.

Except top models, like Alexa, Sony Venice, Red Monstro, not sure how much better the low end cinema cameras are better than top of the line full frame or aps c hybrids.

Now with the ZF 85, generic focal reducer, OM1, video mode, c4k 30p, 10 bit HLG H265, I set the ibis focal length at 60mm, sensor shift and digital, +1. The footage is very usable, much better than EM-5 at 50 mm. If I hold my body and arms tight, I guess that the results will be very close to be tripod like or at least mono pod like. C4K 30p is good enough for slow moving subject tracking, like a rowing man. C4K 30p has more details than C4K 60p. Good for landscape. I guess that if I skip the generic focal reducer, the results will be even better. Not to say the unique 120p photo burst mode. Two thumbs up to OM1. I think it is the best deal today for hybrid cams.

zf 85 supposes to be sharp at f5.6 f8, i suspect that the generic focal reducer is the real culprit.

about video quality of the om1, i think that i used zf 85 mf, which somehow dictates the final image quality. the image looks smooth, but not very sharp, even at f5.6 or f8. very suitable for portraiture, especially to ladies. the color is fine. if using m43 sharp lenses, om1 c4k may be very sharp, will test later with my m43 olympus 25mm f1.8.