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you are an open mind man. I think you are very good to work with in a team, which is a critical factor for a successful dp career.

i agree with you that mf lenses like mamiya are different from hassalblad ones or pentax ones or bronica ones. but larger sensors have smoother tonality, this is for sure. i put my mf lenses on kodak 645 pro and on 5d3 and on apsc cams. kodak 645 pro image just is a totally different level. very noticeable.

in terms of sensor, in the photo world, I think the best sensors are from kodak. fuji super ccd sensor is also very unique. unfortunately, they are not available to the video world. Sony F3 sensor is outstanding, f5 sensor is also very good. but canon c300 sensor is good too, and 5d3ml (c100 mk 2 is little bit lower). so are r1mx epic-x. it is hard for end users to assess sensor quality, as there are other factors kicking in like aa filters, olpf, raw acquire method, etc. I can say that go pro 12 sensor is just at consumer level. you can see that clearly once you try to get good color from it. I suspect Panasonic m43 sensors are also consumer level. Panasonic varicam line cams have excellent sensors.

24p is just a frugal choice. nothing more. in the current era, action packed videos or movies with 24p is just no go if you don't acquire with uncompressed raw. once you pan the camera, even c300 f3 f5 which are considered good cinema or high end doc cams, you see blurred footage. only ml raw give me clear panning. r3d cams are close. 24p with thin codecs is just a joke.

it is interesting to see people with good hands on experience have different opinions. I don't know why. people argue if there is ccd look. both sides are experienced. I was curious and jumped in. I tested myself that ccd actually renders magic in certain light conditions. then I bought dozens of ccd cameras. in 2012, when af100 just came out, people argued about if avchd is as good as prores. both sides were experienced. one guy was even in bbc's avchd committee. I tested af100 with nano flash at 280 mbps I-frame. nano flash footage has wider dr, smoother gradation. I guess that I will stick to my user experience. will see later if there is something more.

a lot options

I can also say that mf lenses on ff or apsc cams have different looks than ff lens on ff cams. The major disadvantage is a little bit loss of sharpness from the former one, but there are many gains. i actually like mf lenses on ff or apsc cams much better. some of my best shots were taken by a hassy 80 mm f2.8 on an apsc cam. all are manual, including the exposure. the exposure meter does not work in this configuration. yet it gives one of the best images i have ever seen.

Also, when 5d2 and 7d just came out in 2009, I spent nights and nights watching almost all of the videos on vimeo shot by these two cameras. I can tell you that they are different, even with the same crappy in stock codec. 5d2 footage just shows some magic eye-catching things there, the color, the gradation, that magic touch that 7d2 footage is lacking. 7D2 footage looks dry whereas 5d2 footage looks juicy. In other words, full frame vv look exists.

do you do development and print by yourself at home, or send to print shops? i ask this question, because improper pp may be where the mf or lf look disappears.

Interesting. You don't believe that mf or lf look exists? This is totally against my experience. I mostly shoot photos with ff and apsc/apsh and 43/m43 cams. When I use Kodak 645 pro, the look is so distinct and so much better, I am happy in heaven. I did not believe that mf or lf look exists. My user experience tells me that it exists.

thanks for the info. seems to me canon raw does not have many adjustable options? b raw in fcp may have similar issues?

prores raw is good for rcp, b raw is good for resolve. seems to me they are fighting and not mature enough. I use resolve so I don't care much if the camera has the prores raw. r3d is supported very well by all major nles. I think r3d is the way to go if you really want to shoot raw. I think red cams are very practical raw cams. for ml raw, you need a computer with many cpus to process using mlv app. resolve seems to me is not as good as mlv app to process ml raw. otherwise, resolve can use cuda, so it is faster (about 3 to 5 times faster on the same computer). other raw codecs, they are just not mature enough to be practical.

when I started videography, I naively thought that a hybrid vDSLR would cover everything in the photo and video worlds. One camera to rule them all. With time passing by, I accumulated all kinds of formats, especially in the photo world, 4x5, 6x9, 6x7, 645, 135, m43/43, apsh/apsc, 1 inch, super8. and also the video cams. later I realize all of the popular formats and cameras have their unique niches. It is very difficult to replace them with one format and one camera. I just keep them all. For example, in the current era that bokur is the king, super 16mm still is very suitable for documentary and in depth news reports. A famous scene of the Citizen Kane is that the young Kane played behind on the snow field outside of the house, their parents talked to the banker in the front in the living room, and his future was determined. Actually this is very suitable for S16. s35, vv, 65/mf will bokeh the background, which is an addition to the story. This is often the case in news and documentary, you want the background layer to have more information more layers to make the whole scene dense and impactful.

There is no doubt that size matters, if everything is acquired in raw. But there are other things to consider in the whole process, like olpf, sensor design, acquisition method, dsp, codec, nle, lens, etc. So, it has to be all things considered. Right now GFX 100 line or other MF hybrids seem to me still are not mature, no raw, no 444, not 12k, no tuned olpf, etc. If all of these are implemented, yeh, medium format look is certainly better than smaller formats. Probably in another 20 years.

I don't have hands on experience with the Alexa ev and f35, but basically most of others listed in this test I own and tune with my hands. I have to say, they all look good in their own ways. each its own. you really need to own these cameras and lenses for several years to get what you want. renting them for a weekend, even top dps don't have enough time to know them to get the best out of them. so, although this test was ground breaking, it still had its bias. I don't know why people sell their gears. I rarely do that. after spending so much time knowing them, they are like my friends, part of my life, why should I sell them and get something new yet unnecessarily better but definitely less familiar gears?!

is it better than go pro 12? I can make go pro 12 footage surreal looking. will this one have enough info in the footage?

the master was filmed with 65mm film. special look. I especially like the sea scenes in this movie. but there are some other scenes very compelling. the actors performed very well too. a true master piece.

10 years ago I bought a Zeiss glass goggles. I forgot the name. it is kind of like giving you a 100 inch 3d feeling. I bought it about $500 brandnew. I planned to use it with a camera. my eyes felt sore quickly. I gave it to a friend.

according to my experience, putting on a mf lense like 50 mm on a ff cam like 5d3ml, is a little different than putting on 50mm sim is on 5d3ml. even the same focal length, medium format lenses are easier to get bokur even at f4. mf lenses have smoother rendition but less sharper.

it has prores h265 h254 mp4

m43 or 43 is actually similar to the original 35 format, so it is not big deal to be against using m43/43 due to this format issue.

I guess he used iPhone to do the vlog. actually, iPhone vlog footage is not far behind the big two. the lens is not good on iPhone, distortion is eye catching, not friendly to the lady. it is amazing how things get so close. 20 years ago, a phone, a crop sensor, a top brand of cinema camera, they just did not get along at all.

very very close. except extreme situation, Alexa lf seems overkill.

I think red's r3d is probably the best raw codec. r1mx can go recode 42 1:75, epic-x can go 1:3, epic dragon can go 1:2. all of the nles can render r3d very efficiently.

I actually like hassy's 6x6. that is real open gate. lol. just no equivalent in the movie world. it is interesting that about 20 years ago, 4:3 was considered old fashion and nobody liked it.