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Sony's new codec family - XEVC will be officially unveiled around the 21st August. Along with some new products with this new codec onboard.

This may come as a surprise but BMPC6K uses IMX571 (yes XT3 base sensor and zcam S6) operating in a 6144x3456 ROI mode.

Despite the sensor dimension in the spec, the actual unit houses a standard 3:2 APS-C sensor.

1 hour ago, JurijTurnsek said:

Wonder what the physical size of the 108mpx sensor will be: https://www.androidauthority.com/xiaomi-64mp-108mp-phone-1014815/

Current info is that the pixel size is 0.61um, so the sensor size for the 108MP SKU is 1/1.7"

Sharpness, detail and moire are just a few of many image quality metrics.

If you compare S1 and A7 III, the 4K quality is identical. But S1 offers better DR, colour and way more framerate and codec options.

4 hours ago, JurijTurnsek said:

One big benefit of these high MP sensors is the extra pixels available for EIS. Xiaomi Mi 9 and 9T are amazing in that regard:

I would really like to see it compared to Osmo Pocket. Also, bring these new sensors to DJI product and improve stabilization eve more.

Sony Semicon/Samsung has licensing restrictions that those sensors are to be used in mobile phones only.

55 minutes ago, Cliff Totten said:

I know two people that are in the sensor industry. One of them has purchased sensors from Sony for his company. He is under NDA but he has told me that this is how Sony sensor liscensing works. Its not "buy a sensor and get everything" deal. You buy the sensor and license what features you want. If you pay for and licence 8bit 30p and you turn around enable 10bit 60p....you get sued! Your license is specific and affects the price you pay.

On the IMX410....we dont know if its that sensor! Why?....because that sensor has dual pixel phase detect architecture! That sensor requires pixel masking...that Panasonic says they HATE doing and wont do on a Panny camera. (Part of their excuse as to why the "prefer" contrast detect AF...even though every moden camera makes the dead pixels on every sensor today)

Maybe it is a IMX410 variant with the dual photosite grid removed in the die. We will never know untill Tech Insights x-rays it.

The HILARIOUS thing is that every year at NAB, the Panasonic booth continues to say that the GH5 and GH5-S are "Our sensors that are made by Panasonic"....yeah right! Nikon says this too!

Why do camera companies HATE admitting they are buying common Sony sensors for their cameras? Is it really THAT embarassing?

Dual pixel phase detect is a Canon patent.

Sony's PDAF is simply a pixel mask.

As I've mentioned earlier, the CQK SKU of IMX410 does not have PDAF mask, it's used by S1 and ZCAM F6.

So much bullshark in the sea.

1 minute ago, Skip77 said:

What's the CQK part?

It's Sony Semicon's way to differentiate SKU, for example, IMX571AQR/BQR, IMX299CJK, IMX461XTK.

9 minutes ago, Skip77 said:

Rumor has it the S1 does use the IMX410.

https://www.l-rumors.com/the-panasonic-s1-probably-uses-the-new-sony-imx410-sensor/

Sony built the Nikon sensor to Nikons design specs. 

The rest of the Z6 specs had nothing to do with Sony, - body design, heat displacement,  IBIS, color science, processor, and 144 Mbps.  You make it sound like Sony is calling the sots.  

We don't know how the camera industry works behind the scenes. You don't know what Nikon negotiated with Sony and how it worked. That's what Nikon and Sony work with NDA's

IMX410CQK

These cameras  Sony A7 III, Panasonic Lumix DC-S1, Nikon Z6,  and Sigma fp  use the IMX410CQK sensor. 

IMX410CQK - Spec PDF

IMX410CQK_Flyer.pdf 116.43 kB · 0 downloads

They are all based on IMX410, but not all of them uses the particular CQK SKU. The CQK one does not have PDAF mask.

1 hour ago, thebrothersthre3 said:

Yeah same processor 

Rolling shutter is determined by the sensor readout speed, not the processor.

They share the same sensor.

We might see a 24MP 1inch RX camera announced soon.

6 hours ago, nathlas said:

 

Comparison of A7R IV should be along with Z7( and S1R) not Z6.

Or maybe "Z8" and another upcoming camera that will use an almost identical variant of the A7R IV sensor.

Fujifilm 16-80 f/4 R WR OIS officially announced:

https://jonasraskphotography.com/2019/07/18/fujinon-xf-16-80mm-f-4-r-ois-wr-first-look-preview/

Up to 6 stops of stablisation.

Could be great as an all around gimbal lens as OIS can smooth out small jitters.

33 minutes ago, HockeyFan12 said:

What’s the S1 rolling shutter timing? 17ms? 33ms?

6ms would be groundbreaking.

 

S1 has 28ms in FF 4K, 12ms in cropped 4K 60P.

Despite many similarities with IMX455, this IMX551 is not off-the-shelf, it's Sony exclusive.

1 minute ago, Gianluca said:

Not stacked sensor for A7S-III? Only bsi? 

S is for sensitivity, not speed.

Let's see what Fujifilm has been up to:

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A7R IV S35 4K rolling shutter: 21ms

"A7S III" 4K rolling shutter: 6ms

"A7SIII" will use the Quad Bayer version of this sensor, IMX521CQR.

Tis sensor:

If only DJI could add an option to turn off the ugly over-sharpening.

1 hour ago, Video Hummus said:

TowerJazz could be printing a licensed customized Sony sensor for any manufacturer who licensed it.

TowerJazz produces the sensor for S1R.

For S1 and fp, they use IMX410CQK-C.

Good overall colour rendering, but skintone a bit too magenta, A7 III is surprisingly better in this regard.

Perceived DR is quite high, but it's mostly the result of aggressive NR.

2 hours ago, kye said:

Do you know if there is likely to be a gap in-between the exposures when it's stacking the 16 frames?  Ie, can it do a full 360degree shutter.

If you have a subject with motion blur then you don't want there to be gaps throughout the blur.  This would be especially obvious with light-trails of headlights etc.

The 3D models thing is super-cool.  The problem with modular cameras is that the modules are flexible but sacrifice overall size compared to integrated designs.  Being able to 3D-print an accessory and not having to adhere to the standard sizes for mounts, mount adapters, and the like would be great.

ISO6 is intended for landscape photography.