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Do you not want your wife to see it?

Yes. Why?

As some may know, I ordered the NX500 two days ago from the eBay seller that has the body only priced at $344. I have been itching to shoot 4K for awhile now, and at this price, I had to go into debt, and get one. Of course, now I have to sell off some lenses to pay for it. Anyway, I received the camera yesterday, which is pretty fast, even if the seller is in the same state as me. Yesterday afternoon, I only had time to open the box, and inspect the camera. Everything looked good, and new. The camera has a nice, balanced feel to it, and doesn't feel cheap... But most importantly... It just looks cool. The first "problem" I've encountered is that Samsung went the cheap route and didn't include an external battery charger... So if I decide to keep the camera, I'll have to order one, and a couple extra batteries... Good news is the batteries, and charger are cheap. So, I plugged the camera in to charge, and turned her on. Since it was a body only sale, and I don't have any NX lenses, I was only able to check out the menu, and set some preferences, until my adapters arrive... Hopefully by tomorrow. The menu is simple to navigate, and organized well. The first thing I checked is the firmware, and as I assumed, it is 1.0. From what I have read, it is a cinch to update the firmware through the camera's wifi. Once the battery is charged, I will giver her an update. I really like how they employed the FN button for on the fly changes. It's much better than some systems where you have to go deep into the bowels of the menu to make basic changes. From the FN button you can also set up, and customize your picture profiles, and they give you a lot of options for the customization... More so than the Sony or Canon cameras I have had in the past. Along with normal preset profiles like standard, and vivid, etc... you also have a few custom profiles, where you can adjust the RGB, sharpness, saturation, contrast, and hue. Without the ability to see the image, I dropped everything down to -10, except saturation. I'm sure once I get a lens on her, I will tweak them a little more to get the flattest image. But with so many customizable options, it seems like you could do a dirty and sloppy in camera "grade" for videos where you may need a quick delivery. Anyway, that's about all for now. I'll add to the post as I progress. To Be Continued

Okay, I received my NX500 today. It was not made of chocolate, or anything. I don't have a lens for it, so I will not be able to test it out until my adapters arrive, but it looks new and although the box was opened to remove the lens, it was resealed with a professional looking sticker. I will have time to charge it and mess with the menu tomorrow morning.

Here is a link to the article, it's mentioned under Dynamic Range. https://***URL not allowed***/lab-review-sony-a5100-video-dynamic-range-power/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=lab-review-sony-a5100-video-dynamic-range-power

Thanks, I'll post when I get it. I ordered it yesterday morning, and it's supposed to be delivered today, but I am not home, so it may not arrive until tomorrow.

In the review of the camera by Cinema 5D, they found that setting produced the best, flattest results. That and either ISO 200 or 800 had the best dynamic range. But, as always, personal preference trumps everything. How do you like natural?

I think he sent the G7 back, so his review may be on hold. And yes, the crop factor can be a problem with the NX500, but for $350, I can deal with it.

I have the a5100 and like it a lot. The 50mbps codec is really clean and flat using the recommended Portrait -3, 0, -3. I haven't seen much footage from the G7, but on paper it looks good and I can see how that 4K down sampled to 1080p is alluring... It's the reason I bought the NX500.

I have FedEx confirmation that my shipment is on it's way.

I've purchased cameras from 6th Ave before, never a problem. They actually have a big retail location in North Jersey. So no worries.

hey, I don't disagree with you. I'm just relaying my experience, and I'm in the U.S. too, in the northeast.

Does the NX500 have a native ISO?

Really, most people I know record the entire party. They move throughout the party and hide behind the camera, people wave to the camera and wish the kid happy birthday. They record the entire gift process, the birthday cake, of course you need it on record that the guests are eating the food you shelled out money for or the wife made. If he is lying, then they are analyzing the market, why spend the money on r&d, if the lack of 4K has zero affect on their sales... or why throw a lot of resources at it?

Sometimes I wish there was a "dislike" button.

The more I am reading about this camera, the more I think I made a good choice slapping down the $350 for it. I just love these summer deals. Two years ago, I picked up my EOS-M for $197, on the 4th of July this year, I picked up my a5100 for $245, and now this little beast at $350... I better go order some adapters, so I have a lens to shoot with. How's the battery life? Also, I have a couple Transcend 64gb cards... I think it's the UHS-3 95mbps card... is that good enough for the cinema 4K?

I read that as an honest answer. This has been said over and over on this forum... Canon cameras just work. If you have 4K and it's overheating within 5 minutes, then it's not working, and since Canon's Rebel line is for enthusiasts, who will film their kid's birthday parties or baseball games, and it starts overheating before Susie blows out her candles, or before Billy gets up to the plate, that becomes a problem and in the end would hurt their brand more than not having it in the first place.

Andrew, how well does EditReady handle the transcode? I just bought it for my a5100 and it's awesome with the xavc-s. Are you going to prores 422? Staying in 4K, or downsampling to 1080P?

But in 24p, it is cinema 4K... does that change the crop factor? I am not too worried about the shallow dof... as long as you frame your shots, with that in mind, you will definitely get some. I have a Tokina 17mm and a Canon FD 17mm... with the crop, it will give me about a 47mm lens, at 3.5... it won't be swirly bokeh, or anything, but I'll definitely get a little background blur.

yeah, that sucks. I just went into debt and bought one. At that price, I have to give it a go.

What is the 4K crop again... 2.7x?

I have never used higher end Sony or Canon cameras, so I can only base my experience with the t2i/eos-m vs NEX 3N/a5100. And from that experience I think the Canon colors require much less work to get true to life colors. Even a simple FCPX preset will grade the Canon nicely with one click, and the Sony is not as easy, but I really like Sony colors, it's just not as simple to get true to life.

I use neutral, everything turned down but saturation... Which is two clicks to the left... I think. I used Stu's Prolost Flat settings.

I have the a5100 and shoot only in the x-avc s codec. My other camera is the eos-m. From my limited experience using the a5100, I've only had it a few weeks, I have found that the image is much flatter using the portrait profile -3, 0, -3 on the Sony than it is using prolost flat profile on my eos-m. But it is much easier grading the Canon footage for real world color.

Video when not handled properly looks bad, even on a great camera. Film when not handled properly still at least looks like film. I think in some ways we are all talking about the same thing and btw, I am no one to talk because most of my stuff looks bad too.