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It is pretty funny how myopic some people are. DSLRs aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Nikon will continue to expand at a conservative pace and will do just fine. In fact, if more camera manufacturers go under, or leave the market, Nikon will not be the next to exit and most likely will be standing way longer than the electronic companies that are only out to sell 4K TVs.

Companies like Canon, Nikon, Fuji, even Pentax have a traditional camera lineage that gives them a little leeway and insight into these changing times. I personally think, waiting to include some of these features, we consider a necessity, is the smartest thing they could have done and I would question how it's helped the big electronic manufacturers by including them? Panasonic trails Canon in mirrorless market share. Sony can't make a consumer grade camera that doesn't implode upon normal use. And then there's Samsung... And then there wasn't Samsung.

Okay, I should have it to you tomorrow or Friday.

I have a really busy week. Can you download mine from my Vimeo page? I hope to get out tomorrow and do a more thorough run through, if I have the time.

Also, what shutter speed are people using? I've been using 1/48, but since they added the 1/50th and the rolling shutter fix, I wonder if that was supposed to quietly fix the problem. Because, to me it looks like a rolling shutter issue.

Yeah, and we should post it here as well. We want them to see there are a lot of eyes on this issue.

I'd wait to sell it until we confirm that Tom is having the same results with ALL of the same parameters. Honestly, I'm not too concerned about it because I will rarely shoot over ISO 500, I know it can still rear it's ugly head, but I never noticed it any of my footage until I bumped it up to ISO 20,000. If Tom's XC15 footage showed it, I would have chalked it to... Don't use any camera at 20,000 ISO. Lol.

On another note, I have been watching some XC10 videos on YouTube and there is some great footage out there. I am amazed how many people are using all auto and getting some incredible results out of this camera. I may be on a a mission to shoot a completely auto, run and gun feature with the XC10.

I am going to redo my test at every ISO setting, I may even switch it to gain as well, in C-Log, in manual and auto, with and without IS, in 4K and HD, with and without ND... Etc... I suggest we all do the same.

@tomsemiterrific can you confirm all of your settings and redo your test with nothing initialized in C-Log?

If CVP didn't have any other complaints, it may behoove you to exchange yours... If yours is still within the return period. Write down your prior serial number for future reference. But I would still contact Canon as well. Did you sign up for CPN? I quickly looked at the site last night... Do you know how many points the XC10 is worth? Btw, could it possibly be zoom related... Reflections? Or maybe the internal ND is misaligned?

Btw, just watched your Cinema EOS test video... Looks good. That's one of the profiles I want to dive into next.

Good test. Are you going to add a feature with every test to see if you can pinpoint the issue?

Yeah the XC15 looks nice, even at 20,000 ISO.

Yeah it is pretty bad. Hopefully they'll fix it with a firmware update. Luckily I haven't noticed at 500 ISO and I will never shoot at 20,000 ISO again. I will say though, after not using the camera for a little over a month, I almost forgot how nice it is.

Crazy thing is, there is really only one pumpkin on my table.

Here's my test in HD... And here it is in 4K...

I didn't even see it at all.

Idk, I think you may be expecting a little too much at 20,000 ISO. I didn't get a chance to do the test today, I may get to it Thursday, but I have a pretty busy week ahead of me.

Good to know, thanks. Every time I think I may want a modern lens, I read about how clean and perfectly sharp they are and I hear... clinical. I think I'll just end up buying the RMC 17mm or the AT-X 17mm... Either one of those would probably match my Tokina manual AT-X zooms better. Do you have any videos online with the 58mm Voigtlander on the 750 or 800 (810... Whichever you had)

So, it didn't even match color wise with your angenieux Tokina?

Some of those Cooke videos you posted last month were gorgeous. And this is just another testament to the quality of both the C300 and the C500.

The Voigtlanders are beautiful on the G7, so I'd imagine they'd work great with the GH4 as well. A lot of others also really like the SLR Magic lenses.

I may have a couple minutes to test mine tomorrow. I'll let you know.

I think Tom has both cameras.