Musty

I found this GH4 4k video on vimeo.  You can download the original MOV file.

 

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What I mean is, you need to make sure that you download the correct version of ML that works on your version firmware. There is firmware version 113 & 123. Look in the menu on your 5D MKIII to find out what version firmware you have running on it, then download the correct version of ML. Extract the files to your SD card and that is it, you don't need any other files.

Hi and welcome.

Did you download the latest nightly build and the correct one for your firmware version? Make sure you grab the latest one from here:

http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/

I hope that you are also able to edit the profiles, any idea if you can? Or any indication of how far you can push the custom profile? (As I know this camera has Master Pedestal, something I haven't used since the Canon XHA1!). 

 

As a GH3 owner, the more I see of this camera the more my GH3 is likely to be on eBay! 

You can change the shadow and highlight curves in camera, so the scope for tweeking the custom profile is pretty massive!

Thanks for the info Adrian, that's exactly the kind of comparison I was hoping to see.  Cine-D, while not log, looks like it will be a great option for grading.  Frankly, I've always been concerned about the potential negative impact of recording with -5 contrast on my GH3 in an effort to gain latitude.  Skin tones on some occasions appear to be adversely affected even after selective contrast is reapplied in post.  It will be nice to have a factory "flat" profile that retains proper color science.  I imagine it will pair very well with plug-ins like Filmconvert.

Yes, Cine-D immediately looked like Technicolour to my eyes, very flat and the blacks raised a fair bit in order to preserve information in the shadows.

Thank you for sharing! What can you tell about low light?

I was unable to test low light as the store was fairly bright and the 35mm lens on the camera was only f3.5.

Slowly but surely, some new videos are starting to surface and with some reports that the BMCC 4K is usless at ISO 800, I think Panasonic is in a great position to upset all their rivals. In case you don't know it yet, Panasonic are giving everyone who buys a GH4 a free spare battery and BATTERY GRIP when the promo is claimed through their website! If I'm not mistaken, a grip costs around £200 in the UK.

I found this GH4 video earlier today, I don't know about you guys, but it looks like there is heaps of DR!

Finally some testers are putting out some decent clips!

Adrian

So I played with the GH4 this afternoon at Jessops, Oxford Street, London. Although I spent around an hour with the camera, I was not allowed to record any footage to my SD card as the Panasonic rep said that the unit was a pre-production model without the release firmware. Being a nice chap, he did allow me to test many of the video functions and looked closely at the 2 Cinelike profiles the camera has, Cinelike D and Cinelike V.

I've never held a GH series camera in my hand before, so I was very suprised by the light weight of it. I'm used to the weight of my 5D MKIII with lump of L glass, so it was lovely to hold a camera that felt so nice in my hand. The OLED screen was very sharp and clear and worked perfectly to pull focus. The EVF was bright and full of detail. The eye piece was ultra comfortable. Focus peaking worked an absolute treat. A quick word about the autofocusing, its very impressive and I noticed no 'hunting'. I think it will be pefect for shooting with the 96fps function when you want to track something that is moving at speed.

The Cinelike profiles look interesting and I believe no footage we've seen so far has used these profiles to capture footage. Cinelike D is pretty much like a Technicolour style flat profile which is probably going to be the most used one on the GH4. Cinelike V seems to crush all the shadows into black and I found it hard to see what purpose this profile would serve.

The DR of the GH4 looks really good. Even though we were inside near the back of the store, when shooting out towards the windows, plenty of detail was retained outside. I know on my 5D, lots of it would have been blown out, almost white!

Unfortunately, I was not able to look for moire or aliasing as we could not connect the GH4 to a monitor and it was too hard to notice it on the OLED or EVF as they are too small.

In all, its a great camera and I can't wait to see more footage from it in the coming weeks. I did get the Panasonic rep to watch my showreel and while winking at him said I've love to shoot something for them :)

If you have any Q's please feel free to ask. Finally, some photos of the Cinelike profiles, this is the best I could do :(

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Adrian

I had the same dilemma as you... but I quickly got over it.

I've had a 5D MKIII since it was launched and back then, the quality of the H.264 was decent enough. Since ML gave us RAW, I've been shooting nothing but RAW ever since. ML RAW is amazing and I never thought I'd own a camera that could shoot such beautiful footage as it does... Unfortunately, it is still only a hack and even though it is getting more and more stable, you cannot trust it on a paid job. It will crash on you or it will stop recording due to a bug and it will happen during an important take or during a moment which once missed will be gone forever.

This was unfortunate enough to happen to me a month ago and it was not a plesant experience. It actually made me look like quite a fool and potentially has lost me more work with that client.

I Pre-Ordered the GH4 without too much thought. It will without doubt shoot some of the best 1080p we've seen from a stills/video camera. Most of the sample videos being uploaded by testers are not so good, likely to be because they are photographers with no real interest in the GH4's video capabilities. A few good videos are starting to surface though. I really would like to see something shot with the Cinelike profiles.

I'd obviously love to stay with Canon as I've invested a lot of money on some fine EF glass and the thought of having to start from scratch with MFT is a little daunting, but exciting. It would be great if Metabones hurried up with their EF to MFT adaptor, but there is no sign of it still. I will most likely replace my EF glass with the nice SLR Magic Cine lenses.

Maybe Canon will suprise us at NAB, but doubtful.

P.S - Anyone in London should get to Jessops on Oxford Street tommorow. They will have a fully working GH4 there between 10am and 4pm. I'll be heading down there with a fast SD card... fingers crossed!

Vimeo accepts ProRes and DNxHD files, although Vimeo then transcodes it to H.264, its the best route to keep some of the quality in your video file.

A few pre-production videos are starting to surface.  My initial impressions are the GH4 doesn't look as cinematic as the BMPC, and the flesh tone colors look slightly unnatural.

 

Michael

That's because the pre-production models are being given to people that have no idea about what they are doing, most likely photographers with no real interest in video. Also, most (if not all) of these videos are being shot with standard colour profiles etc. We need someone like Andrew who would test out the Cinelike profiles the GH4 has, then graded properly with an upload on Vimeo so we can download a clean original file. Only then can me make a call on how good the GH4 really is.

Hey guys,

A couple of stores in London will have a working GH4 with a Panasonic rep this weekend. The dates are Friday 14 March, Saturday 15 March and Sunday 16 March 2014 from 10-4pm at the following stores:

• Jessops, 129-131 Oxford Street, London, W1D 2HU
• Park Cameras, 53-54 Rathbone Place, London, W1T 1JR

Full press release here: http://news.panasonic.co.uk/news/panasonic-announces-preview-campaign-for-dmc-gh4-79357

I'll be there to check it out on Saturday around midday.

Looks like Panasonic are also giving away a free battery and battery grip with every GH4 purchased! They are really gunning for it!

Adrian

Placed my pre-order in the UK today... can't sniff at £1299 plus no money is taken until despatch so hopefully by then Andrew or someone would of had a chance to shoot with it and relay some information about it. I'll hold onto my 5D MKIII for a little longer.

All that remains is someone to put out some well shot, edited and graded footage. Some of the footage some testers have put out is absolute junk.

Andrew, will you or have you already in your hands on a GH4? I'm thinking about jumping off the Canon ship as is seems to not have much direction.

Adrian