Don Whitmore

I know, I know, I know the URSA 4.6k mini sensor is different than the URSA 4k mini... but man o man was the 4k mini unusable when we tried it last week. Their studio 4k mini's did surprise me though.

This has never been true of any industry. What the consumer "needs" is irrelevant. None of us "need" anything. The scope of what the average user is doing is ever changing.

Very unprofessionally-put questions that will lead to absolutely nothing, not a single usefull answer compared to what a professional journalist could get by asking similar question just in a different way.

This is where news reporting has gotten it wrong. There shouldn't be "professional" questions to ask. You ask the questions that are pertinent, and you don't pull the punches. I'm sick of media sugar coating this stuff. They have the technology to give us what they want, it's their job. Product cycles, or just not enough $ into R&D, isn't our problem. A good company would take a market lead and capitalize on it. They have not. Typical lazy corporate bs. Thank you for calling them out on it.

I know for a fact Sony's internal communication between departments is terrible. Imagine if we had a lart tech company that actually ran well.

I surely read it. Reason why someone needs to introduce some common sense and real scope over such geek questions. If you are in these forums for a decade, you should have crossed yourself with my posts for sure. And also prevailing the technical aspects of business when needed, aside others (other aspects count: they must be seen altogether; that's an usual mistake). Take a look in one of my links at my signature or both.

 

A few of you were probably in the high school, I was feeding myself from high end technology inside this industry. Trying to convince people to shoot 1080p 3:1:1 rather than 35mm film.

 

This doesn't mean we have to lose the sense of proportion of technical aspects. That's the whole point. When we lose it, we lose any basis for our wondering. A discussion about cameras serves if balanced. If not, if we distort the blanket only for one side of the bed, we will lose the whole purpose for.

 

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This is the real problem in this industry, in any artistic industry tbh. Injecting your ideals of how anyone should go about learning their craft, with such brazen arrogance and reverence for your experience, aren't the kind of conversations we should be having. 

Again, if you want to talk craft, go to a forum post about craft. If you want to provide meaningful conversation, to the point at hand, then chime on in. I for one appreciate these kind of tests. The bulk of my knowledge is in computing. As I transition to film, namely digital film, I've found dynamic range information incredibly useful.

oh God, a camera is NOT only sensor or test rates!

 

At times, I wonder if this geek idea of a capture device has anything to be with real photography... (E :-)

You just came to a forum posting about technical specs and complained about people caring about technical specs. We don't need another obligatory "it's not the tool that matters, it's the artist" post.

Let's all take a breath and remember this is a new member. It's best to stay quite in new surroundings, and learn to listen first.

It's highly likely that the sensors have come down in price since the camera was announced almost a year ago, it's technology we're talking about after all!

Same goes for most other components...

These sensors are <$100 probably, they may not even be the most expensive part in these cameras. The digital bolex sensor is somewhere around $60, you can call the manufacturer up and buy them in any quantity you want.

We see the corporation system doesn't work. Let's try something else. Clearly this isn't free market.

I'd like to know how and why Andrew Reid has had his order fulfilled by CVP when they have told me they haven't received any from Black Magic Design yet. As someone who ordered one of these on the first day they were announced (8 April 2013) - and paid my deposit, I'm still waiting for mine to be delivered and CVP have even deleted the expected delivery date from their website. So much for CVP's first come, first served policy! Something smells!!! Not impressed!!!

Because he runs an influential blog that could directly influence how successful the product is... It's like you're complaining while waiting in line at starbucks because some guy held a place in line for his friend. Annoying? Yes. But usually the guy complaining is the one coming across as the bigger jerk... Wait your turn, the customer is NOT always right.

Hyperbole gets you nowhere.  No union is asking for $1000/hour.  While the unions are scrambling to deal with faster/easier production techniques, you still need grips, you still need electrical, and frankly, it's on your head if you kill someone trying to do it cheap vs. doing it right.  When it comes down to it, a guy asking for enough money so he can pay his mortgage and feed his kids > an executive bitching about not being able to buy his 3rd house in Malibu.  I know you've been here "for a year", but I've been here for 7+ years and have seen my share of incompetence/idiocy at all levels.  The unions can make some things difficult, but I'd rather have them than not (and I'm not in the union).  I sincerely doubt that union labor was a significant portion of Lone Ranger's budget, btw.  I can totally see it being an issue when you're working on a $30k film, but even then there are waivers and you can even go non-union (good luck paying less than prevailing wage, though).  I got my SAG actors for what amounted to $30/each, for example.  Anyway, don't mean to nitpick.  I agree that as the new batch of filmmakers come onto the scene, we'll see cheaper films made with more modern technology, etc.  I also know that it's hard to go from "well, everyone did this for free back in film school!" to realizing that while you might be living your dream, everyone else needs to eat and pay rent. 
 

bwhitz, on 08 Jul 2013 - 9:24 PM, said:

It's top-to-bottom corruption... and the ones who are getting screwed are the audience, the next generation of creatives who might actually be able to make better material for 90% less $, and the industry/art form itself. The film execs want million dollar salaries for having nothing but their arbitrary titles they earned for networking/sleeping their way to the top... and the union workers want $1000/hr for jobs, that more often than not, don't need to exist. Things have to adapt. They're basically using the same film-making model since the last overhaul in the 70's. Innovation needs to happen. We have the technology and capability to make films for about 80% less money and require 80% less labor... better start putting it to practice soon.

None of this will be an issue in 10 years, if self web promotion took off. Look at the video game market. Once dominated by $60 purchases, it's now a system run on subscription services and micro transactions, allowing the smaller video game production companies to be able to run. Soon video production could run like this. A small group of film/video artists could run their own production company if their content was worthy, and compete with large production houses. IF the medium arises. I wish it would.

Wonder if it has something to do with a 50 year old white guy playing a Native American. Cause we all know there are 0 Native American actors...