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This is why I think it is targeting the FX3 type market. That is a small form factor camera from RED!!! I mean Nikon, that will compete for the small form factor Video/Cine market for 3 to 4 thousands USD. My guess it will give you all the video/cine tools that are not necessarily present in Nikon Z cameras, at least for now. I can't see this camera, not coming out with Lut Support and false colors for example. I see Nikon marketing it as Mini red, with red color Science etc, to event/documentary/wedding filmmakers. Or to even Nikon shooters that might want one of their bodies with more video centric tools.

The Nikon Z30 is the same form factor of a Fx3. It is more or less, a brick with a lens mount and a fully articulating screen.

Latest rumor's Brick-shaped, video-oriented design, without pentaprism and EVF – a combination of the current RED models design, the Sony FX3, and the Nikon Z30 Many features and tech from RED will be incorporated inside Z6 III sensor (24MP) Very large LCD screen 6K (intra-frame compression) Image stabilization 1 SD and 1 microSD card slots Announcement: September 10th Second time I see that it has a SD and MicroSD card!!! The only reason, I would think that they would use a micro SD, is for a backup lower bitrate recording on a second card. This has been one of the gripe people have been having with Nikon. But even the SD card is puzzling for me. Is their SD cards fast enough for ALL-intra codec, and my guess it will implement REDraw. For a company that has used so much CFexpress card, I am a bit astonished.

Why do you think an R5ii would be more at risk, when they cater for completely different market. The R5ii gives you a premium photo camera experience, while this one would be more for videographers that might occasionally shoot some photos.

Then in 3 years, your battery are not working, or your lens is not working because they didn't update their software. I have my beef with Japanese companies, but at least in my case, the product I was buying was not completely obsolete after 3 years.

I am no Chinese hater, but I prefer China hegemony stop their. They already dominate in some tech like drone and you can't have anything that is, sorry to say, in one way the worst junk you can have, and it is product obsolescence. DJI completely bought the American (I am not American) influencer people to chant their laurels, while consumers like me can't find a battery two years, because most of what I bought was swelling, after having invested 1500-2500 USD. Or even some propellers, when my 10 year old battery in my Nikon camera is still working.

They have announced film grain by the end of this year, in their picture profile as they just launched the silver version of the Nikon Zf.

Yep, seems that it is not a Canon or Nikon, apart from the Viltrox, I don't think Canon or Nikon would showcase their camera with a third party lens, and not a full autofocus Canikon lens.

I don't think so, if your image is lets say out of focus you are not going to get moire. OLPF filters are basically filters that blurs the image just a little bit so as to remove the risk of moire.

Ok, I thought that softer images, tend to decrease moire because it lowers frequencies.

I mean the aim is not to use those 4-5 last stops and put them back at the base exposure, but it tells you that a 3 stop underexposure is still good, meaning your noise floor would still be much better than a camera that would be stuck at 2. Somebody else who likes to do technical test on Nikon cameras has an interesting test between the two, because he was intrigued how could the z6iii that was so criticized for the DR, while the S1ii got so much praise while using the same sensor. For me without the DR boost, the S1ii is still reaching 9 vs about 7 stops of latitude in the case of the Z6iii. The only difference for me is the 9 vs 12 ms for the sensor readout. And I hope Nikon give us, at least the S1ii DR. I already se a z9 which has 14ms sensor readout, so 12 ms is good for me. https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4812023 link to the comparison

I have personally stopped looking at the DR test from imatest and charts in general including CineD, but only at the Latitude test. Since some companies starting with Canon, started baking Noise reduction in their RAW, it just tricked the system. I prefer by far the latitude test, as it is just real life one. You can clearly see, how much you can get back from over exposure and underexposure. Unfortunately CineD doesn't have a full test of the z6iii, but I have seen other test online and it was like 3 above and 4 below. So you are getting around 7-7.5 at best stops of latitude, which within a lot of FF cameras which mostly were between 7 and 8 stops of exposure latitude. But looking at the S1ii, the exposure latitude is at 5 above and 4 below in the normal mode!!! Already 9 stops of Exp Lat, which puts it very high, at a Red Raptor level of Latitude!!! And when you go in the DR boost mode, you reach a solid 10 stop of latitude, which is as good as the Arri Alexa LF !!!! https://www.cined.com/panasonic-lumix-s1ii-lab-test-part-2-dynamic-range-and-latitude-using-prores-raw-5-8k-with-dr-boost-on/ but now the rolling shutter is at 27ms. One important thing to take into consideration is that in normal mode the S1ii sensor is at 12 Ms, and the z6iii at 9Ms. It seems Nikon went for speed, which tends to create more heat and noise. Now, for me, I hope Nikon give us choices. I prefer two additional stops of DR and a sensor read speed of 12 ms with 10 stops, than 9 ms and 7 stops. If they can give me both, great. If they can even give the 27ms 10 stops of latitude mode, even better. I prefer choice, where I can make my own decisions. I don't know if it is me, it is as if Nikon didn't get out the full potential from this chip, and Pana got more time and did their own teaks. Sincerely, if they only did the normal mode at 12 ms and got 9 stop of latitude in the z6iii, rather than all the criticism they got from z6iii DR, the camera would have got a ton of praise.

You never tried to use some soft mist filter that might blur the image, just that little bit that it would remove those moirer.

Apart from the Alexa DR advantage, their is no huge difference in sensor from a Sony FX3 and a Venise ii. You just have to watch the test from CineD. In fact the likes of the Nikon Z9 (Sony based sensor), is better than the Venise ii in the true DR test, That is the latitude test. My guess because they privilege's speed over Noise/DR.

I use 95mm filters on my Titlta Mirage matte box, Vasis and Tilta have a set of round 95mm in the 60 USD range.

Nikon GM saying, they intend to leverage some of RED tech into their cameras. My guess would be at least REDcode Raw and their LOG workflow. I was looking at a 12bit Nraw vs 14 bit NEF raw (Photo) and their was quite a difference in terms of detail in the shadows that would make it great a 14 bit REDraw codec in camera. https://nikonrumors.com/2024/07/22/nikon-plans-to-incorporate-reds-video-tech-in-its-cameras-in-order-to-expand-market-share.aspx/#more-196596

I would advice anyone to wait a little bit. This is someone who did a latitude test with the Z6ii and 3 side by side for photo. My guess Raw video should be close. As can be seen, they are very close. Lowe, doesn't mean bad unless you are some youtuber in search of clicks. In his test, we are 3 above (Might be 2.5) stops, and 5 to 7 stops under depending on your noise detail tolerance. Now, if we go to CineD examples that include everything from GH5 to the Alexa 35. Some things to take into consideration is that I am refering to the LAB test lattittude which I think is much real life than the Imatest one. Secondly they test everything resized to 1080p and do apply some NR to see to what best level they can go. So, the least that z6iii is I would say to be about 2.5 above and 6 stops under. That would be among the best Sony sensor base Latitude test before the Burano. The Z9 was around those numbers. At best reduced to 1080p and NR you could be 3 above and 6 under, that is 9 stops that is Red raptor level, or even 3 to 7 under, that would be 10 stops and you are at original Alexa level!!! Now I don't know if it can be that good, because it is not exact same test and I am extrapolating at all. What is sure is that at 100 ISO, i think the original Z6 sensor was very very close to the Alexa. And so people don't think I am completely fabulizing, look at the latest test of the Burano, reaching about Alexa level https://www.cined.com/sony-burano-8k-lab-test-rolling-shutter-dynamic-range-and-exposure-latitude/ anyone

IF I was you, I would wait a little bit until a CineD lab test. As shown with the Z9 test, between synthetic benchmark and real life latitude test, the result can be very different. Same for the Sony Burano which with the Z9 scored poorly in the imatest test, were for Nikon about the highest Sony based sensor camera with 8 to 9 stop (Even better than the Sony Venice 2), and The Burano, which with its 10 stops latitude, is the first camera to equal the original Arri Alev sensor.

This is the normal bitrate, they have a higher bitrate one, it at least give you the capability to shoot raw at what used to be normal h264/265 bitrate.

So does Niko support LUT or not. I saw reference to th functionality that you can create your own look in Nx studio, but now it is referred to lut??? https://nikonrumors.com/2024/06/18/nikon-nx-studio-1-7-0-and-n-log-3d-lut-1-07-released-with-support-for-the-z6-iii.aspx/

Yes I understand he did balance it, which is good, but as shown by the CineD test I posted you can go from the worst like what people thought of the Z9 to best in class, to even best in the country as with the Burano.

I am seeing the price of the Zf already quite discounted at 2100 Euro (Some site I don't know even have it at 1700 Euro). I don't know if it is sale period or normal price now, because it is 350 euro below launched price. My guess is that Nikon is putting high launch prices for early buyers and true prices tend to come 6 month/1 year after launch. So it depends on each and everyone patience, as true price tend to settle after these first months. https://www.idealo.fr/prix/203267232/nikon-z-f-boitier.html

Yep, and this is why I said to go and watch latitude test on CineD. Before the CineD lab test I did not understand why people were saying Canon was faking its DR by using NR on its RAW files, now I know. Imatest is a synthetic test, you just have to apply a little NR on your footage and it might think the shadows are super clean. Look at Gerald's test of the Z8 h265 test, the thing is he got like an extraordinary number that he found out was due to extra NR on the z8 h265 footage and at the start of the file, that the imatest was fooled. Now look at the lab test at CineD. You will see above that the Xyla/Imatest result aren't that good compared to most other cameras, but watch the latitude test below. While most Sony sensors even the Venice 2 are at best 8 stops of latitude the Z9 is a solid eight and room for nine!!! https://www.cined.com/nikon-z-9-n-raw-lab-test-fw-3-00-rolling-shutter-dynamic-range-and-latitude/ Same for the Sony Burano, Which is even better as it reaches 10 stops of DR, the first camera to reach the Alexa Alev classic DR. https://www.cined.com/sony-burano-8k-lab-test-rolling-shutter-dynamic-range-and-exposure-latitude/ You can see clearly when you analyze the different camera test, that the latitude test is much more real life DR of a sensor than the synthetic Xyla/imatest measurement.

This one is just gorgeous.