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If it is true, for me, the pefect workflow for RAW use, will be the 4k Nraw converted to RED raw. As it should be around 350 Mbs, which is very good for RAW. The only thing I don't know is how do they get this from a 6k sensor. In Gerald Undone, it did look a bit mushy, but I don't zoom 400% in my shots. The 4.1 k from my Z9 is perfectly usable. But in this case it is just half of the pixel.

Perhaps this is the reason, but for h265 it is 5.4 k and not 4k until 50-60 fps. Could those .6k make that much of a difference!!! I would have liked the impression of a z6iii shooter on the h265 format. I had a pre order for a z6iii with my reseller in my country. And I changed it to the ZR. I hope the h265 is good LOL. I was also very wary about the overheating as I live in a tropical island, but just saw another video, from a Vietnamese shooter, who said no overheating. I think he was one of those who filmed one of the launched video.

So this is a very good test of the ZR. I don't know if the english AI translation is 100% correct, but anyone can try it. He was ecstatic from the start about the DR of the camera and did a latitude test, using middle grey and overexposing and underexposing to see the level before clipping the highlight and the noise barrier. This test is very good for the ZR as DR/Latitude test have been a bit all over the place. If you watched the CVP test, it was like 6 at best 7 stops of latitude!!! The ZR was clipping even before the Z6III !!! My guess is most of the test were done before Davinci last update to incorporate REDraw NE etc. And the guys were using REDsoftware to convert the files in Tiff etc. and it might be that file did lose some information. He is getting 5 stop over and 3 to 4 stop below. So, a 8 to 9 stops of latitude, at nine it is huge. If you watch CineD lab test, you are in the RED raptorX, Panasonic S1ii territory. The Z9 approaches that, but most of the other Sony cameras (but mostly in compress format) like the Sony A1, Sony Venice (RAW) etc are at 8 stops. In their test, their is only the Sony Burano, Alexa LF at 10 stops and the Alexa 35 at 12 stops!!! His complain is like everyone about micro HDMI, and huge file size. I sincerely hope Nikon does give us a lower bitrate REdraw. He also says the h265 is bad, my guess it is that when you get use to that RAW, you see everything around bad. Matti Haapoja had the same reaction when comparing the ZR side by side with the Fx3. He then changed after using the h265 a bit more and said it was at least equal to the fx3 or better. Nikon Zr is its on worst enemy, when people compare its h265 to the raw, because the raw is so good, they feel the h265 is bad. But in the end very very positive about the camera.

One thing I saw, is that the R3d hack, give a more pleasing highlight rolloff, or preserving the highlight better, resulting in some more DR.

I think if you are using h265, you are going to use the full 6k resolution anyway. What I was saying is in RAW, you can half the data if you go from 6k to 4k. It is a compromise, but for me 4k native is already very good. I don't need more resolution. The only thing that would be really practical for me, would be to reframe the shot like in an interview setup in the video below. So I can simulate a 3 camera setup with only two cameras, which is so much easier to do.

I have not tested the Nikon ZR, but every Nikon cam that I have used before, from the Z6 to the Z9, H264-H265 have been very very good. You might not get the whole DR etc. but they have been really solid, even the D750 1080p 24mbs has been solid. LOL. Now, one thing I have been doing with my Z9 is use the 4k NRAW, which is only about 350 mb/s at 24 fps and also very good. The ZR also has a 4k NRAW/Redraw mode. Which would bring this type of bitrate. I also hope they also bring a lighter redraw mode. If not, you sill have the NRAW naming hack. Where by renaming NRAW to RED files, it is recognise by resolve as REDraw and process as if it was the same. It seems you can get a better Dynamic range and noise reduction like in the video below, where it even works on Nikon z8 nraw.

This video is very interesting about the conversion of the Nikon NEV to RED red file. The thing that is the most interesting to me, apart from the blue channel clipping, is about the dynamic range of the camera which he test as from 8.25. I think he has a Z8, if this is true in the highlight, the z9 which has been rated at 8.5-9 stops of latitude in the CineD lab test, could be either a solid 9 (Panasonic S1ii, RED V-RaptorX), or closer to 10, that would be Arri Alexa LF territory!!! I saw someone saying that his Nikon is like a new camera, about the highlight, but also that the chroma noise reduction was also very good. The Nikon Z6iii/ZR, is supposed to be the same sensor than the S1ii, with the only difference is that the Nikon's are at 9.1ms and the Pana is at 12ms. I would dream if nikon could give a slower version mode with the S1ii DR/Latitude. Because most of the time the slower read, creats less noise and thus more DR.

But if you hear Gerald, the Nikon is Shit, and the Canon will find a place as a Cine camera. The man cannot stop dunking on Nikon. Last week was, how come Nikon put cinema on this camera with its micro Hdmi... This week it is, but Dop and First AC have told me they prefer no IBIS. As if 99% of the people using the C50 will be on movie set. And not as one man band doing weddings, corporate events, social media content creation and some smaller advertising, and occasionally on some short movies. Same, for the ZR. No one expect it to be a cinema camera and replacing the RED raptor or Arri Alexa on most sets. The Ibis is 10x more important on such a camera than a micro hdmi that you can lock with a cage, and the camera itself coming with a big screen.

I will never understand this thinking when someone likes photography or videography. Today the only true thing they are changing in phones is the camera. My 2 years old Samsung will handle all my social media or call perfectly. Why not invest in a camera and lens, that will be their for the next decade, rather than buy a new phone every 2 3 years for 1000 USD and more, that will sorry to say, never match a FF camera.

Man, by his and your standard the Arri Alexa, Red Raptor and more importantly Film cameras are not cine cameras. On big set I have worked (Netflix) I was more of a set photographer, and if you had to see the level of complexity to set up those cameras, you would not believe how hard it is. You normally have two to 3 people on each cameras. For example I see many people saying this camera is not a cine camera because it records on one card . Guess what, even the most advanced RaptorX used in latest Hollywood Block busters Superman and Tron, u se only one card. And lets not even talk about Film cameras.

I think half of the people here, think football is that sport played 99% with the hands LOL

I think Megadap wil be the worst nightmare of Sony. They are so fed-up waiting for some true update like an FX3ii, and they felt insulted by the FX2, which is a nighmare. Now even if the make an FX3ii they will sell it for twice the ZR, or lets say 1.5x, and who will buy the Fx2 nowadays, a camera 500USD pricier than the ZR.

I would beg Nikon yo do a liter version of the REDraw. Many will soon discover, that they can't shoot in it because it is too heavy, and literally not use the camera for what they bought it for. It is easy from some of the youtubers to film an hour of content to show in their 10 20 minute review. But it is not the same when you are filming for 1 2 hours on a five day project. I don't know REDraw size, but from some people who have used it, the datarate on the ZR is very high.

People here would have dreamed about this camera just two years ago. People were crying for 10 bit and log like 5 years ago, and some people filmed movies with the Gh2 or Canon 5D. I am not saying this camera doesn't have flaws. But saying this is a camera for content creation when you have multiple Raw formats, and one color science that was only available to cameras costing 7k, but more precisely 10 k when you add the accessories in the apsc red komodo, and about 15-20k in full frame. In fact you can film a movie with this. I am sad it did not happen 10-20 years ago, or I was not 10-20 years younger, thinking about this I prefer the later... Oh shit, looking how the world is going, I prefer the former. LOL

The guy problem is that it is written cinema on this. So either you can film a hollywood movie with it, or it is shit. Someone should give him a film camera to see how many functionality their is, and hold and behold perhaps he might see something call grain. I mean I have been using Nikon since the z6, a Nikon files have been extremely robust. I got my Z9 3.5 years ago. At first I didn't even touch the 10 bit h265. Then I just used it just like that for some personal things, and nowadays I only use the RAW format when I want the absolute best. He just look at 400% at the files, he knows nothing about grading etc.

My guess, they didn't want to kill their RED brand. It would also have cost minimum, 5000+ USD to 10 000 USD, and not many Nikon shooters could have afforded this. I would have liked a bit better spec even with a more costly body. But in the end, this will be found in a lot of Nikon shooter camera bag, as a secondary or third body for professional. And it would become their primary body for video. For photographers, 5000 USD is already flagship level camera bodies. This is also the ultimate content creator camera, people might not care or even despise it, but it is a big market. Nikon has loss so much market share, and more importantly in the younger demographic, that it might revive a new generation of shooters for the company. It is a bit of a jack of all trade, from someone who would just pick the camera and either film himself or do some content filming some dancers or skaters. To someone rigging it and going to shoot a doc or a short film.

Where did you get these. In the gerald Undone test, the DR imatest test, it around the 12.5, which is about the good/middle ground.

Yep, Nikon sells like 700 000 cameras, and my guess RED only a few thousands at best. The economies of scale are enormous when you think the Expeed 7 processor is used in nearly all their models.

Man, his review was a bit of a preview with very little detail. No hating because he had very little time, but comparing images in full sunny day and cloudy day is not very conclusive. For example, we know that they have a new hotshoe that seems to have an audio link.

More or less, that's it. Perhaps also, to be able to shoot Open Gate.

They just don't want to alienate their customers. The people or rental companies that bought 30 000 to 40 000 USD camera and system, will be pissed if their investment is gone in days. They are already offering Canon to Nikon Z mount swapping, and my guess it will take at least 5 years or a total change.

I think with the CFexpress card and many raw format in including it seems REdcode, it is no more a youtube camera, which I also thought before with the SD/MicroSd card rumor's. If they do what Panasonic did with the same sensor as the S1ii, we could get a very good camera. I sincerely hope did the later, as it would 1 to 1.5 stop of exposure latitude than for example the Canon C50.

I think the 2600 is the body only price. Because he says "keep in mind that this range also includes some lens kit options".

This is always one if not the best camera review. The camera itself looks a very very good product except for the Stabilization. Another thing is the latitude test, which is for me the true to life DR test. And it is definitely not a DGO sensor and Canon is lying again about the 15 stops of DR(Not same test values). In the latitude test it scores about 7.5 to 8 stops of exposure latitude. Which is ok to good. For example the Panasonic S1ii in normal mode, does about 9 stops and the Arri Alexa LF 10 stops of exposure latitude.

They can do both, or so I thought. I mean, I thought this camera would be the RED camera for Nikon users. That is the lower end of the Cinema cameras (FX3) that would fit in the budget and size for Nikon enthusiast and pros. And then as Sony, they could have a RED Komodo based on the Sony FX6 body style and specs etc. for more pro video level. They are 4.8 billions turnover company vs RED 160 millions. So they just need RED to be some kind of Brand for them as a serious video brands and don't even need RED to be profitable. With the new Raptor X global shutter, RED is scoring some of the biggest movies in Hollywood, like the latest Superman and Tron.