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Hey Andrew! I purchased the older PP for my A7sII and loved the color for well lit environments. I would like to get this one also for our new A7III What would the maximum ISO you would recommend for run&gun filmmakers in lower light environment. Or is there another profile you suggest during those situations? Thanks

Is that s.gamut3.cine or another?

I case anyone is interested. Just recorded 29min clip 4K 24 100m and no overheating yet on the A7s II. Lcd was on and against the body and in a 75 degree room. Body was warm though. Just a note, the battery is lasting longer than I remember the mk1.

Where is the record button placement? Or is it mapped to the photo button?

Could you share a pic so I can see what you mean? I'm willing to try it, I just don't want to bugger up anything. The only thing I worry about that is the durability for run and gun situations. We change lenses a bit.

I have found that quite a few sigma lenses don't work properly with the Metabones IV for Canon glass. I even tried using the latest Dec 29th firmware and still no go. Here is a List that I found doesn't work properly and crashes intermittantly: Sigma 50mm 1.4 Sigma 35mm 1.4 Sigma 120-300mm last 2 versions (Older Sigma 120-300 works) Did you get any more information from Metabones about this?

Hey Andrew, nice article about A7s and 1Dc. I noticed in a pic you had a monitor mounted to rods. What mount is that? thanks!

Nevermind.

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The A7s is an amazing camera used in most situations. I personally rented the camera and filmed a band demo inside a night club and it turned out great. Just so happend that the night club didn't have any blue leds and I had no idea there were any issues until it was too late. If its amateur because I am a little ticked then it is what it is.

I guess I was hoping that Sony would simply fix the issue in a firmware update and that would be that. But everywhere I see people saying its an ongoing problem with many other Sony cameras and they are unlikely to fix it or even care. I guess we should have been more diligent before purchasing, but the low ISO was the holy grail for us and we jumped in without seeing how deep the water was. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate and took advice from everyone who has chimed in with a workaround to lessen the issue. The main thing that works for us is raising the WB to 5000+ and helps the most. But unfortunately introduces quite a bit of post work to get things back looking right. I can live with the funky record button, its just frustrating to have an amazing camera with what seems like a minor firmware update. A small company like Blackmagic updated the black hole issue pretty quick.

With all due respect max, do you even own a A7s? We own several. You sound like you work for Sony or have friends there. The problem isn't just with Slog2 nor high ISO. The issue doesn't happen on any other cameras we have used and the issue happens regardless of iso or PP and is reproducible. I know every camera has a few quirks but this makes the A7s unusable in the night club environments that we mainly shoot in. That's what ticks me off, we have a good bit invested in them and only use them for a few projects.

Sorry Nate, but I don't buy that. I have 2 Sony A7s and it does the same thing no matter what profile we use or even turning it off. The only way I have found to minimise the issue is to bump the WB to 5000+ . We do alot of nightclub environments and Its for that reason alone that we do not use the A7s cameras anymore. Its Fing horrible and unacceptable they havent fixed it yet, even after the web is littered with posts about it.

I second that suggestion. Any tips you could offer on PP or Slog settings. Its definitely complicated!

I don't know about recording to smaller than 64gb cards.But recording with a 64gb card we get 2hr 41minutes(XAVC S) using Transcend SDXC-I R95-W60MB/s. They are fairly inexpensive but reliable. Record time is limited to 30 minutes. We are getting about 55 minutes per battery, they are really small so you can carry a bunch, however we use a battery grip and it makes it alot nicer and feels better in the hand.

Thanks Mojo I read that on the other forum too. Its just a workaround but causes quite a bit of headache in post trying to color grade everything to look normal. Again... its something that I think is unacceptable and bugged. Sony seems to have no intention to fix it since they have known about it for a while. Our Canon & Panasonic cameras are the current goto cameras and don't have weird problems that make them unusable in the many situations we work in. Is it possible that Sony's newer sensor technology is bugged and there is no way to fix it unless they redesign? I can't understand why they havent unless its impossible.

Why can't Sony fix this obvious defect in several of their cameras? They have to know about it. I mean you can't use the camera in most situations dealing with bands, plays or club scenes and definitely not Disney world at night.

It's a new camera and everyone is just trying different settings to find what works for them. That's why they ask. Glad people like Bloom, Andrew and the others don't feel the same.

Great question, I was wondering about that myself. I switch between 100 and 100+ but I don't see much of a difference. Could someone explain Zebras as they pertain to the A7s. Its different somehow.

I would also like to know when the Part 2 of the A7s review is coming out. Been waiting patiently... mostly

I was on another forum and they were talking like its been a problem from sony cameras for a while and they were likely not going to fix it anytime soon. Their recomendation was to adjust your white balance to 4600+ and it would go away. Sounds like a pretty serious problem not being able to shoot anything with theatrical lighting. I can't understand why Sony would not want to fix this problem. I don't mind some small bugs but that is unacceptable.

Hi and thanks for the replys. I wasn't shooting S-log2 I was on a Cine2 PP. Are you recommending not to use a PP or one of the defaults? Because as of right now the camera is useless shooting theatrical/band type situations with colored lighting.

Anyone with a A7s have any strange color clipping issues? We shot a band the other night that had those led lights that change colors. Everytime they would change to blue the blue channel would clip and give a horrible image that was unusable. Then today I found someone's post on the sony forum about the same exact thing. He posted some examples in this thread that are exactly what we were experiencing.

No problem! I thought these forums were to share information and not the tight lipped approach some have. Anyway, I am always looking for alternatives to Slog. I don't like restricting myself to 3200 ISO+, so if you find something you like, please post. Thanks!

I believe alot of people would like to know to play around with it. But he has only given the basic and you need to figure out the rest to your taste. Here is a popular setting that doesn't use S-Log that you can fine tune if needed. Black Level: +10 Gamma: Cine2 Black Gamma: Wide, +5 Knee: 75%, -1 Color Mode: Cinema Saturation -1 Color Phase +1 Color Depth: R+6, G-4, B+2, C+1, M+1, Y-1 Detail: Level…+4, Adjust…B/W Type3, Limit 7