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So, what is the right way to write it? RAW or raw?

Why is Blackmagic spelling RAW all caps? Don't they read EOSHD?

Hey Andrew, congratulations on the new site! Great job!

Could you please add support for Tapatalk on the forum?

It already does 4K internal, it comes off the sensor as 4K and is debayered, all the hard work done and sent to HDMI rather than compressed and sent to the card. 4K compression is trivial. Mobile phones do it. I don't believe the overheating theory at all... The biggest heat management issue in the A7S comes from the sensor and that is already doing 4K even for 1080p. It's probably more work for the image processor to downsample the 4K output to 1080p than it is to compress the 4K and write it to the SD card. I think they are saving the feature for future models.

 

My message is clear to the manufacturers and always has been... Give us 100% of the capabilities of the hardware we pay for and don't disable stuff with a line of code.

 

This makes sense. Fair enough.

The A7S probably does 4k internal as well.  At least it should. 

 

I think that too, but the body being so compact, there's a good chance it'll overheat when recording 4k.

As always great images, Andrew.

Awesome camera.

You can just create a 1080p timeline and resize it in that.

Thank you.

Refer post #6 above

Damn, how could I miss that?

Thanks, man.

 

So how do I go about doing that in Premiere CC?

Do I just create a 1080p timeline, drop the 4k footage there and resize?

Or do I edit in 4k and only convert to 1080p when exporting with Media Encoder?

Can anyone help me with this question?

well i think its fair to say that because its a guide about the camera, that the post process isnt absolutely needed. that in mind i kinda miss that chapter as well. your nifty curves trick is good, but that cant be the only mention. in my opinion.

 

-i would have loved a few links to free LUTs or more tricks like the curve presets.

 

-how to work with 0-255 in premiere and if theres a way to set ip up so it always includes all luma values. because by default it chops them of.

 

-some words on the GH444 tool and if there is still problems with gamma shift in MOV files.

 

 

stuff like that.

 

Great points.

I have those questions as well.

Also, any word on the 444 tool for windows? Is it possible to do the 4k 8bit 420 to 1080 10bit 444 thing on Premiere, Media Encoder or Davinci Resolve?

Andrew, I'd like to thank you for the great work on the guide.

It's very comprehensive and straightforward.

However, I too think it lacked a bit on the grading side of things. Although I do understand and agree with your reasoning for not delving too deep in the issue on the guide, my feeling is, since you praised the gradability for the camera so much on your preliminary reviews and the main one, it'd be very nice to have more in depth notion on how to deal with the h.264 coming out of this camera specifically. Your experience both in grading and in dealing with this camera would be very welcome, and something not very easy to find elsewhere.

I like EvilMonkey's idea of a blog post (or a series of posts) breaking out various situations and workflows. I'm sure you already have enough material to show us. Let alone the new stuff you'll be learning in the coming months.

Again, thank you, and keep up the great work!

Cheers!

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Thank you EvilMonkey!

Andrew, how to buy the guide?

I just make a payment with paypal and then you send me the link to download the book? How do you know what email to send the link to? How does it work?

Thank you very much for taking the time to making such comprehensive material. You contribute a lot to the community.

Cheers!

I think the big secret is a Metabones Speed Booster that gives the GH4 hybrid tea/coffee making features.

I think either we'll see a a99 successor that records 4k internally for double the price of this camera, or we'll see a A7S successor next year with 4k internal recording, depending on how the competition goes. Or maybe something in between? Small body, 4k internal, same HDMI options from A7S for US$2500? They can't depend on external recording forever if they wanna sell those 4k tv sets, right? Not if Canon comes out with full frame with internal recording.

I guess the best option is to get GH4 now, and see what happens next year.

For the price of a GH4 + YAGH (whatever the hell that thing is called) + recorder, or for the price of A7S + Atomos recorder, maybe it's a better option to get GH4 + A7s and cover all your needs. Something tells me that if you buy a 4k recorder now for a A7S, you're gonna be very sorry in 2015.

We all knew there was gonna be a catch.

Panasonic can offer 4k internal recording for US$1700. Sony can't, or doesn't want to.

Oh well...

It would be great if someone with access to a Canon 1D C tested this.

 

This is great news indeed!

Nice work, Andrew!

This camera is shaping up to be a game changer, for sure.

 

Now cue the complainers bitching: "I don't have time to transcode my footage to prores/cineform! My computer will explode! This camera sux! BMPC 4K is better! Alexa is even better! Herp derp!".

True. And that doesn't have mean a bad thing.

I would buy a Canon camera over a Blackmagic/panasonic one even if they're better- if the difference is not big enough.

It's mainly because I live in Egypt, and as Canon is a huge company they are extremely existent in the market here, I can find service, advice, repair, a huge amount of accessories and a great sale and re-sale value. That applies to nearly all countries outside the UK, US, etc. It may not be as important for you guys in the UK and US and I imagine if I lived there I would use BM/Panasonic/Sony instead of Canons, but I unfortunately don't.

When a C300 failed on me a couple of months back (it was weirdly working but wouldn't respond any record button) I immediately made a phone call and found professionals answering me politely. a day after they picked the camera up from my house, a day after they dropped it off, perfectly working. Truly remarkable really given where I am. I can't imagine having a blackmagic fail on me here, Oh God! :D

I just can rely on Canon. Disappointed by their marketing-model and line-up but, I can trust them.

 

Exact same thing here in Brazil.

Very difficult to find Pana/Olympus lenses for sale here. And good luck in finding someone to sell the lenses to. No one is gonna buy them, unless you're practically giving them for free. It's a very frustrating situation outside US and UK.

I think the way to go here is GH4 + Nikon/Canon lenses with added bulk of Speedbooster. Ok for video, not so awesome for stills.

Wow! This is great news!

If that works out as simply as scale to fit on the Premiere timeline, there's one more (as if we needed more) reason to buy this camera.

Looking good! *in Jeremy Clarkson's voice*

I've read a few times now people say on the internet that 4k 4:2:0 when scaled down to 1080 becomes 4:2:2.

Can somebody shed some light into this? Is this true or just nonsense?

Thanks!

Maybe it'd be a good idea to put all of these cameras in one place, but giving them grades for specific characteristics for video that we don't find easily on other sites, like the guys over at The Verge do when they review something.

So, in one post we'd have all of these cameras like this for example:

 

5DIII

DR - 9/10

Resolution - 7/10

Low light - 10/10

Ergonomy - 7/10

Codec - 5/10

Battery life - 8/10

Price - 8/10

Etc

 

GH3

DR - 8/10

Resolution - 10/10

Low light - 8/10

Ergonomy - 7/10

Codec - 7/10

Battery life - 8/10

Price - 9/10

Etc

 

On each camera you could disclose your reasoning and preference bias and let people know why you think said camera has better bang for buck, for example.

And then let the readers decide what is the ranking based on their specific preference and needs/budget.

As more cameras come out, we would get a monthly update with new posts.

 

I think you've earned a very good reputation with all your work on this site. And I believe that having this kind of resource would turn out to be a very welcome reference, especially for beginners.

I'm surprised you put the 5D3 h264 above the GH3.

Yes, me too.

Nice chart! Very useful.

Just to clarify, is the Canon 7D (H.264) and 60D included on the "70D and Rebels" place too?

Does this mean the 720p 8bit videos we have now are gonna be very tiny and will load instantly for people with crappy 3g internet connection?

That'd be great!

I'm not really surprised that this is a half assed attempt by Adobe. With this subscription thing they have going on, we can expect new features to come trickling very slowly, so it seams like they are always improving and the monthly payments are worth it.