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I know it won't improve anything but the idea behind is to give Youtube the best file in the hope they will encode it better and have a better result on Youtube. No idea if it actually works like this lol.

Currently shooting with the canon 200d and since I have a lot of APS-C glass it seems a cheap way to jump to a ML camera that can shoot raw to boost my IQ. I am okay with the slower workflow as in using a preset in MLV APP and wait for the files to be transfered to Prores before using into Premiere. Couple of questions.. since I use my camera also a lot on a gimbal it is a bummer that the EOS M doesn't have a flippy screen and DPAF. Are there any APS-C Canon camera with stable reliable magic lantern raw firmware 1080p with flippy screen, useable continous AF and tracking AF features? Higher res than 1080p is also fine as long as it doesn't cut on 50fps recording and AF features. In short is there any reliable ML camera that supports good continous AF / DPAF and higher framrates like 50p with higher quality than standard canon 8bit .h264 footage? The Eos M doesn't have a flippy screen. How is the continous AF with 1080p raw? What about the 7d and 70d?

I will look into that. I wonder if it's worth after upscaling with such programs to bring the upscaled mp4 back in PP. Export as Prores again for optimal input in YT? Would that make sense? Even if I have a 4k cam a good upscaling method would still be very nice for 1080 120p footage to match other 4k footage. Thanks for the tip. Some people are working on it very slowly but the question is if they will ever succeed to do it on the 200d. Yeah on the monitor and tv it's better than on YT because YT adds compression. But overall the image is very soft I think it's just canon dslr 1080p footage. I have a small channel almost 10k subs I do get the VP9 codec though on my vids so thats fine. I did tweak my Sigma lens on their dock but this is for OVF with photos right? It doesn't affect live view as far as I know? Hmm interesting about EF-S glass maybe not working on a super 35 cam like c200 and c70.

Storage will add up quickly indeed. However storage isn't to expensive now a days. I don't have projects super often as a hobbyist as well. My pc build below AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Wraith Boxed MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX Gigabyte geforce gtx 1650 super Crucial Ballistix 32gb ram 3200 mhz Corsair CX450M Pny xlr8 250gb m2 Samsung 860 QVO 1TB so I think 4k will work especially with proxies which are easy to make in PP. I will try the upscale part but there is a rule like garbage in > garbage out right? The canon 200d 1080p footage is just super mushy 😞 Good point about renting one to see if it's worth the money and extra work in post.

Oh yeah I know some techniques that can be used. It just seems like a major PITA in my workflow. I saw some videos about using preserve details in After effects and using dynamic link from Premiere pro. However if I need to do this on every clip on the timeline thats far from ideal... Are there any quicker ways to do it with all clips at once? What about if the edit is done on a 1080 timeline and nest all the 1080 clips and upscale it this way to UHD? Is that possible at all? However than I would also need to scale all the fonts as well no? And then apply noise reduction and final sharpening on the UHD timeline? If I would start on a UHD timeline it would be annoying to browse through all the footage on the timeline which is 1080. Any input for a smooth as possible workflow on this?

When I decide to buy into a RF body, I just buy it to have the 'better' specs that come with. It's just that a Canon dslr is missing good 1080p and with going with the 4k bodies you get a more detailed looking image than the 1080p canon. I was planning to buy an adapter anyway to use my EF-S lenses on the C50 or EF glass on the R6. Most of the RF glass is out of my budget atm. I need different lenses from ultra wide to macro to cover my footage. I really need good AF because I use my gimbal quite a lot and it's handy for run and gun stuff and tracking shots. Since I already have canon glass this makes it convenient to stay in this system. Switching to Sony is also more expensive to replace my current glass. Some second hand offerings for canon glass have really interesting prices. For example the Sony 90mm macro vs the 60 or 100mm from Canon is a huge difference. Same for the Sony 10 18 vs Canon 10 18. Not only is the Canon glass cheaper it's also much more available second hand. Fuji lenses also very expensive although the XT4 is nice capable body for my needs. AF not so good as Canon and Sony. Panasonic bad AF.. Blackmagic great specs for the price but no AF 😞 My best bet and cheapest option would be waiting for the rumored APS C R camera and hope it has 4k 60p. Beside the 4k just to have a sharper image than the soft canon dslr 1080p look. I don't make videos regularly but when I do I try to push my boundaries. After working for quite some time on a project I would like to have better IQ. I don't do commentaries stuff just cinematic visuals of my hobby. It's also nature related so detailed footage is nice for this IMO. Especially when I compare to other related channels that look so much better with their Canon and Sony 4k footage. Waiting I guess for an APS C R body or the C50 so I can reuse my current glass and have nice AF and better looking IQ...

The 1080p upscale to 4k is a very confusing topic to me. People say it's snake oil and others say it works. If I use the upscaling in Premiere pro out of export it looks slightly less sharp than just my 1080p export. Plug ins like Red Giant to upscale are expensive. And upscaling in After Effects seems to work better but it adds more steps in the workflow. Do you have a good tip as workflow for upscaling with nice results but less work as possible? But maybe even if my 4k export is slightly less sharp it would still be better in the end due to better bitrate on YT.. hmm Canon EOS R would still mean I have to swap my current sigma 18-35, canon 60 and canon 10-18 to FF glas which makes the transition expensive. Since the crop is so large in 4k I could use this APS-C glass lol. but then I don't have 4k 60p. Since the EOS R has a much higher bitrate than the 200d does the image not suffer from that soft mushy Canon 1080p look like with the old DSLRs?

If I compare my own Youtube videos made with a canon 200d (sigma 18-35) 1080p vs other channels with similar content when using 4k Full frame DSLR like 1DX Mark II and the canon 5d mark IV. Then I can see the difference quite well even on a mobile (when both channels using sharp lenses). The difference is IMO huge when watching on bigger screens like monitors and TV's. I assume this is probably because the dslr canon 1080p footage is known for being mushy and soft? (is this just because of the low bitrates or are there more variables that come into play beside lenses)? As there are cameras like Arri with gorgeous 1080p files. Even before uploading to youtube on my pc full screen the image is very soft to my liking with the 1080p from the canon 200d. I would love to upgrade to another Canon camera to get a better result on Youtube (as a hobbyist with high standards). The question is when are there diminishing returns for Youtube delivery? I want to max my quality over there but don't spend too much that will be killed in the end due to compression. The Canon R6 looks like a nice option. However I love my current APS-C glass and wish there was just a decent APS-C/Super 35 Canon video camera with features like DPAF, 10bit, IBIS, 4k 60p and 1080 120p. I don't really need the full frame advantages for video work. I just want detailed nice looking 4k and also 4k 60p option. Something like a R6 but APS-C (maybe at the end of 2021 there will be one according to CanonRumors). The new rumored C50 looks nice and is also Super 35, if it's not to heavy to use on a gimbal that would be nice (but no IBIS). Just a shame if the rumors are true that it will deliver 4k 8 bit while the R6 photo camera shoots 4k 10 bit. I wonder beside the specs on paper if the IQ of a C50 4k 8bit would beat the R6 4k 10bit (while the C50 will probably be more expensive). Since the C50 is a dedicated video camera. The C50 would have more dynamic range I think especially with clog 2 and 3, while the R6 could be pushed harder with grading since it's 10 bit and easier to correct some exposure and white balance mistakes? Any input regarding the diminishing returns of certain camera models for optimal Youtube delivery? What is in your opinion better a photo camera r6 with 4k 10 bit or a video camera like the rumored C50 with 4k 8 bit (I know it's not out yet but is there more to expect from a dedicated video camera in terms of IQ)? The C70 looks great but a bit overkill I think just for YT and also to expensive for my budget. Drop your thoughts!

Interesting topic. I tried to research this a bit before for my own channel and it seems like a big rabbit hole. Lots of different opinions. Same about the whole 1080p upscaling to 4k story to get a better final result on Youtube. Some say it works some say it is snake oil. If I compare my own youtube videos with a canon 200d 1080p vs other channels with similar content when using 4k Full frame DSLR like 1DX Mark II and the canon 5d mark IV. Then I can see the difference quite well even on a mobile (when both channels using sharp lenses). The difference is IMO huge even when watching on old TV with only 1080p. I assume this is probably because the dslr canon 1080p footage is known for being mushy and soft? (is this just because of the low bitrates or are there more variables that come into play beside lenses). As there are cameras like Arri with gorgeous 1080p files. Even before uploading to youtube on my pc full screen the image is very soft to my liking with the 1080p from the canon 200d. I would love to upgrade to another Canon camera to get a better result on Youtube. The question is when are there diminishing returns, if my delivery is only on Youtube, but I want to max my quality over there. The Canon R6 looks like a nice option. However I love my current APS-C glass and wish there was just a decent APS-C/Super 35 Canon video camera with features like DPAF, 10bit, IBIS. Something like a R6 APS-C (maybe at the end of 2021). The new rumored C50 looks nice and is also Super 35, if it's not to heavy to use on a gimbal as well. Just a shame if the rumors are true that it will deliver 4k 8 bit while the R6 photo camera shoots 4k 10 bit. I wonder beside the specs on paper if the IQ of a C50 4k 8bit would beat the R6 4k 10bit. Since the C50 is a dedicated video camera. The C50 would have more dynamic range I think especially with clog 2 and 3 while the R6 could be pushed harder with grading since it's 10 bit? Any input regarding the diminishing returns of certain camera models for optimal Youtube delivery?