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"By coincidence, a Canon employee was present at the wedding as a guest and has seen how ridiculous it is that the camera is constantly overheating while the camera is barely being used. He thought this was scandalous and will try to help with this."

Lol... so what can the employee do? Blow at the camera ? Lol

the thing is if we knew and expect it overheat. then ok lets go with that and work with it. as sony camera was famous for. but then the recovery time... and then we find out how really warm it get and not to mention all this hack to bypass the "heat problem".. The "why, because and reason"  of "overheat" just smell shady!

would you guess this is pure based on to protect cine line? i also remember someone mention a firmware upgrade to extend the record time.. so "heat problem" can just be "mended/fix" with update like that. would also be interesting to see how much more they give us and you should also test out more when that firmware comes out. 

i used to study and live in japan and yeah know the system etc how it work. just sad they choiced this way instead make it a super camera. they could like i would say steal the thunder with it. In a positive side. it seems they have a capable good sensor catching up on DR and the temp seems very impressive to be honest. Bad side is all this Cripple stuff and artificial blocks their way of doing stuff. i have a hard time buying anything from them because of this and what i read. I was in looking for camera and lens. r5 and canon was in sight. went with sony instead. I know sony also have shady stuff too, but the product "work". i need to know it work and not fail on me or play Russian roulette.

keep pressure them. you doing good work ! i mean if they got nothing to hide. why not just answer us? even when lousy excuse.  this was canon "debute" camera and all this shit? never seen so many creative way to use the camera as this one. If so then canon should made a manual for "other way to make it work".

12 minutes ago, Geoff CB said:

You loose color information in log images in 8-bit codecs. The more DR here you are trying to accomplish the worse it will look. S log2 is really the limit for 8-bit and even then sometimes that's pushing it.

thanks for the explanation 🙂

8 hours ago, ntblowz said:

you get banding with slog3 on 8bit

just you also get banding with slog2. and youtube is 8 bit so banding anyway?

5 hours ago, Hangs4Fun said:

I'm willing to bet the A7IV (and any new A7 from here out), is going to finally have 4:2:2 10bit.  So starting with the A7SIII and forward, S-Log3 should be usable.  Keep in mind if you publish to YouTube or somewhere similar, you can still get banding because YouTube and others are 4:2:0 8bit and have high compression.  You would need to start using Vimeo or similar solution to keep from having the end consumption showing banding.

Case in point, almost every A7SIII outdoor example footage, if you look at the sky, you can see really bad banding.  This isn't from the A7SIII, it is from YouTube and it's 4:2:0 8bit.

So, you may have high DR AND 4:2:2 10bit colors and S-Log3 let you squeeze as much DR out of your A7SIII, A7IV, etc as possible, but in the end if it is consumed on 4:2:0 8bit with high compression streamed to a smart phone, it can negate much of your hard work.

If you don't mind banding in your A7III 4:2:0 8bit, S-Log3 can help a little, but again, don't forget about where it is going to be consumed.

so slog3 more DR than slog2 ? and wish we could turn off the internal NR of a7s3

not a7s3 question. But on a7iii would you get more DR on slog3 compare to slog2? i know 8 bit etc. but to get most dynamic range which profile?

i mean if we need to use all trick in the book to make the camera "usable" i think that is the problem already. Why should you wrestle with the camera ? make no sense... It is not even a cheap camera!

Maybe we find the r5 cripple info in there  😉

hit them where it hurt most. talk to them with your wallet. share the article. make them trend on internet!

6 minutes ago, Leica50mm said:

Holy smoke, someone was actually able to shoot with this camera. Hard to believe . 

 

 

Techical artist is fake and BS

What about lens resolving this 12k ?i take it super35 lens can handle it np?

13 hours ago, PaulUsher said:

Revealed: rolling shutter/IBIS issue

He claims/thinks the warp is a result of being at 15mm with IBIS, but it’s not. It happens when he zooms in too

I think this is the IBIS wrestling with the rolling shutter. Very similar to the warp on 1DXIII and EOSR when their DIS fights the RS. I’ve been struggling with similar issue on R for months

2 minute mark onwards:

 

i though they had this lens and ibis work together thingy?

44 minutes ago, SteveV4D said:

There is a crop, a small one for 4K.  More due to cropping from DCI to UHD, which resolution is limited to.

Rolling shutter isn’t known, but maybe comparable to the 1DX Mark III.  That was poor for 4K 30p I recall seeing, but better for 60p, though that lacked AF, so hard to say where the R6 stands.

Overheating is likely an issue, how bad, we don't know.   Maybe, this is the only real issue with the R6 compared to the X-T4.  

Best wait till its released, and those who have it can advise exactly where it stands.  Its mostly just specultation at the moment.

around 1:33 mark for rolling shutter

4 hours ago, phoberus said:

I think that too, because otherwise they can't sell the c-line and the r5

They should have just gave all clogs in r5. Would be sweet to get the clog2 too 😕

4 hours ago, phoberus said:

Really excited how the DR will be on the R6 and if they ship clog3 with a firmware update

gonno save it for just r5 😉

1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said:

Will be very interesting to see if the EOS R6 will also get a firmware update - compressed 4K RAW anyone?

That camera is shipping a lot later - End of August.

A7S III end of September.

EOS R5 comes first end of July.

do you think this increase the overheat threshold? or your opinion on it 🙂

6 minutes ago, zerocool22 said:

Looks like it, so perhaps the 5R has 14 stops of DR. If it just has 12 stops, it prolly doesnt make sense to include clog3. Which is not bad at all. 

went into the page couldnt see the specific saying on that. anyone else can screeny it ?

12 stop.... 

6 minutes ago, Coiii said:

I'm not sure if cinema raw light has any special property for "cinema" content. I always thought that it was called "Cinema Raw Light" just because it's a "compressed light weight" raw for the cinema cameras... And since Canon it's less compressed should be better right?

It's just speculation because I don't have more info about any special capability of cinema raw light.

cinemea light raw should compress file by 1/3 or 1/5. according to what i understand. there is some compression, but not as good as raw light. this seems like more in the "big size way" raw

Sounds like the R5 has a 8k shooting limit of 20mins to cool down the camera and about 35 mins limit when recording in 4K60p. The 35 mins in 4k60p is if the recording started again right after the intitial 29:59 mins recording. The camera also has function that will automatically lowers the video resolution and frame rate if the camera heats up above certain temperature. Not sure if there is an option to stop recording instead of lowering the resolution and frame rate automatically

18 minutes ago, Coiii said:

I want that reviews now! It's too much to expect something equal or close to the C200 raw light right? 

Seems like canon raw only. no cinema raw light 😕 i guess that's their way of not eat into cine department ?

• 512GB CFExpress card will fit about 21 min of 8K RAW 
   video footage. 
• NO CROP in 8K30 OR 4K120 verified ✅. 
• No Dual recording video to both cards.
• Running the 8KRAW video for 20 min straight NO 
   HEATING issues whatsoever.