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I think many of us are here for the same reason... camaraderie and support. But at one point the real world awaits.
Hats off Marty and best wishes in your undertakings...

I once heard a story about the Austrian philosopher Rudolf Steiner where he may have mentioned the importance of not introducing children to formal education until their second set of teeth had grown in. The theory behind was that this juncture (second set of teeth) was to allow for the development of the child's imagination. I then wished I had passed through something like a Montessori School (no official grading system)... until I began to hear jokes that these graduates lacked a kind of necessary 'hungry drive' to establish themselves in the capitalist world. Go figure.

It's no surprise that some of the most original works arrive from nuts who grow up in places far and away from Williamsburg and Berlin. Though I don't read near enough, I like what Herzog mentioned, " Those who watch television or are too much on the Internet, they lose the world. And those who read, they win it."  But hey

In my process I like a narrative thread, though it doesn't have to be overt. I'm hunting stories in places where the ridiculous, surreal and absurd play out as everyday life for so many hundreds of millions... material I can't always or easily find in the developed world. Blurring the line between reality and fiction is the most exciting place for me... the challenge is to shake off what I grew up watching and more fully embrace my inner idiot.

Sound is 70% of a film.

This little pixie (and unique creative force) had my heart going bang bang back in the day...

What's not to like?

1 hour ago, kye said:

and the EOSHD Nihilist quote of the day goes to..........   *drum roll*

???

Gosh Kai, thanks! What an honour, for a moment there I thought my comment might have been a little too hip for the room  

And because we leave no stone unturned in our undertakings, the idea of 'emptiness' actually comes from the Theravāda Buddhist concept of Sunyata...

"Emptiness is a mode of perception, a way of looking at experience. It adds nothing to and takes nothing away from the raw data of physical and mental events. You look at events in the mind and the senses with no thought of whether there's anything lying behind them. This mode is called emptiness because it's empty of the presuppositions we usually add to experience to make sense of it: the stories and world-views we fashion to explain who we are and the world we live in. Although these stories and views have their uses, the Buddha found that some of the more abstract questions they raise — of our true identity and the reality of the world outside — pull attention away from a direct experience of how events influence one another in the immediate present. Thus they get in the way when we try to understand and solve the problem of suffering."

It's hard to see folks suffering at the hands of camera manufacture's limitations... just trying to do my part.

I really should be editing... but this is just too much fun

Sometimes I like to harken back to the days where I believed others were forcing me to do things against my will. In time I came to realise I had a choice. I then chose emptiness. 

Best way to expose on non-log profiles?

Sorry, bored and couldn't resist... back to the front.

Smaller and with 60fps, I say that if you nail exposure correctly, it's better than the C300.

8k is for men with small penises. In that regard, I still watch, and more precisely, shoot standard def.

9 hours ago, kye said:

Luckily we have a bunch of things that are meaningless to most people that we all argue passionately about and are saved from having to develop film with coffee to add interest to our days....

But can you imagine... a collective where we could bare knuckle brawl it out while sipping spent developer coffee from the ringside?
The first rule of FilmClub is that there is no rules.

 

14 minutes ago, tupp said:

I don't get the reference, but "Brian Jonestown Massacre" is an interesting pun on two tragedies.

No worries, I only meant it as comic relief. And that one could easily find a pinch of potassium bromide at a BJM show
Anyway... he obviously developed the film with those material... because he could. And for the hordes who are looking to take the edge off their high count sensor, this makes light of just how 'organic' this process can be... if one wants it.

3 minutes ago, tupp said:

Not sure why he didn't just an use an off-the-shelf developer, stop bath and fixer.

- Maybe he decided to process the material at a Brian Jonestown Massacre show and just used the things he saw laying around on the ground.

Two bulls are standing on a hill overlooking a field of cows... the older bull turns to the younger bull and says, "Bring the H16."

A few years ago or so, someone here mentioned something about how some knucklehead types just throw money at gear as a way to muscle their way in... and I often see post go up on crew websites from producers requesting DPs that must have a Red to get the gig while saying nothing of how they can light etc.

Anyway, this up today and worth a read for the perspective:

Jenkin: I made a 45-minute film a few years ago called Bronco’s House, which was processed in a developer made of instant coffee, vitamin C powder, washing soda crystals and a little pinch of potassium bromide to keep the grain down. You can make developers from anything, really, as long as you’ve got an alkali base and an active acidic ingredient. I quite like that side of things. I like experimenting with how you can create pictures.

https://filmmakermagazine.com/108148-with-digital-you-have-to-spend-a-lot-of-money-before-it-becomes-free-mark-jenkin-on-his-hand-processed-16mm-bait/?fbclid=IwAR2tzdi_7xggt6PKoF1XJZDiWH1VYQoeaut0w9L97JwhtA4f-qLGlTgv0ko#.XWqjp5NKjOR

2 hours ago, kye said:

Most things in life are hard to see from a huge distance away, and look nice from a sensible distance, but when you get right up close the flaws become visible and the magic kind of fades.

It sound s like you are talking about marriage

I'm not shooting with anything above my C100 MkII but aside from chromatic aberration and unsharp corners, I thought I'd been hearing the it's helpful to use 'softer' lenses to take the edge off the higher mp sensors. The term 'clinical' sharpness comes to mind, which is fine in gynecology clinic... but even then, maybe better to dim the lights and up the Barry White

2 hours ago, PannySVHS said:

Watched a DVD projection on a 9foot projection screen. Looked awesome. "Coffe and cigarettes". Awesome BW photography. Looked as good as any streaming from netflix. @User Yes, the horror of pixel and tech race. The rants about segmenting tech and about these awefully short product cycles and redundant products are more than justified!

For sure. And, aside from image quality, I'd put Jarmusch's Coffee and Cigarettes against 99% of anything on Netflix... if just for the ethics involved in making it.

I can imagine that many of us here live on very little to do the work we love, that has certainly been the case for me these last years... it's a trade off that I don't regret (as two teeth currently rot in my head). And and as our biosphere bakes and smokes under incessant human greed and narcissism, I rest a little easier knowing that I'm not caught trying to keep up with the Jones. Some call it 'voluntary simplicity.' And I appreciate the spirit of the folks here who are trying to eek out every last notch of their older gear (a la Magic Lantern etc.) before being forced to carry forward.

It took a bit, but I managed to find the decisive moment where things changed for Canon, and not for the better.
Description taken from the poster:
"Enroute to negotiate access to newer Sony camera processors in Kowloon, a Canon sales rep is derailed by a mysterious man forcing Canon to carry forward with their in-house Digic technology."

On 8/23/2019 at 3:12 AM, 1Ale82 said:

he had a hump on his back. He occupied the same seat in the parliament for so long that the seat assumed the shape of his hump.

For me there is a very clear relationship between Andreotti's mangled chair and the missing 23.976. And if I were to step in a little further, I'd say that 'the hump' on Andreotti's back had been telling Canon exactly what to do for a very long time. Nothing else makes any sense.

I motion that we set out to find 'the hump' and then force it to deliver all kinds of new camera tech to further distract ourselves with. Anyone?

Oh there is no issue. Here are two clips that also celebrate female beauty:

A big part of me would like to see Canon do away with any video in their dslrs so some folks could finally get past the bane of expectation and move on.

But then there'd most probably need to be some other leg to hump...

Swinsian. Hands down. It is what the old iTunes used to be without all the shitty that Apple has become.

https://swinsian.com

29 minutes ago, A_Urquhart said:

I don't know but I think this conversation is probably boring the hell out of people wanting to know about the P6K.

Amen.

I think what Skip77 doesn't realize is that his brain (if you'll excuse the exaggeration) fills in the spaces (gaps) between the frames so that 24 fps comes across as smooth motion.
But if he were mindful enough in the first few seconds of turning on a 24fps film, he may actually see the 'stutter.' Especially if watching something at 50fps beforehand.

Yep, and just imagine how many Malaysian (because that where the majority of the world's electronics cardboard comes from) old growth trees it will take to package one of those fuckers? Of course the payoff will be kicking back all smug with a tasty single malt (and a woman you can no longer get it up for) as a horrified orangutan races across the screen... on fire.

Of course the 8k will show off those charred hair follicles... and make you wonder about your own.

But for the man who has everything (except inner peace), how much is actually enough?

If countries like France send their TV content out at 5 Mbps, what do streaming sites like Netflix etc send (Mbps) their hi res content out at?

Edit:
I found this:
"A regular HD Blu-Ray has a bit rate of 40mbps. A 4k Blu-Ray is like 100 mbps. Netflix says you need a 25mbps connection for “4k content” which means the bit rate is even lower than that."

Streaming throughput will increase... in time. But properly pushing an 8k monitor from the web is still quite far off.

8 hours ago, kye said:

I used to think that was a great film, but now I realise that it's unwatchable because it wasn't shot in 6K...  ???

It's absolute magic and filmed like a love letter from a madman.

Ha. Exactly

I certainly love the camera tech side.... but at the end of the century, it is these well crafted 'love letters' that will be remembered not the sensor size etc. But we know this.

Lets just be sure to spend some time in the field... and amongst the waves. I say this for me as much as anyone else here.

Now... let the pixel debate rage on!