jonpais

@Parka @Alex I prefer the 12-35 f/2.8 to the kit lens, but Panny's pro zoom will put the camera/lens combo over Mastor Tech's recommended capacity, so I'm pretty sure I'll be using the tiny kit lens or a wide pancake with the Sailfish gimbal when it becomes available. I will have to rely on auto focus for those shots, but there is always touch focus (tap monitor) if things get out of wack.

Form factor - to be honest, the ergonomics are not ideal for shooting video (camcorders are!), and if you're going to use longer focal length lenses, some sort of stabilization is highly recommended. When Panasonic releases their smaller 35-100mm lens for the GM1, that may change.

@M100 You are living in fantasy land ;)

Here's a sort-of comparison I did between the kit lens and the G Vario 12-35mm f/2.8. Since testing, I've lowered the contrast considerably and gone -2 with sharpness. The GM1 seems to have less sharpening than the GH3, at least from casual observation. I don't find the peaking function all that useful, since it's in low light situations where it comes in handy, but without shiny or contrasty subjects, it's pretty much useless.

This looks like it just might work! Axel The camera handles fine with shorter focal lengths, it's just with longer zooms that the shake becomes apparent. I'll have to see whether they ship to Vietnam.

I also discovered today that the flash will only work with pancake lenses. My 12-35mm f/2.8 casts a shadow, even without the lens shade. No biggie for me, since I mostly shoot video, but it might irk some. If the GM1 had a microphone input and headphone jack, I'd say it could just about replace the GH3. I'm really liking the color I see out of this.

 

Update: Looks like they don't ship to Asia :(

The GM1 rocks! I've been using it for a couple weeks now, and I believe the colors are nicer than the GH3, especially skin tones. I also think it has less in-camera sharpening, at least that's my impression, though the aliasing is more apparent to me. And no more lousy speed dial to constantly accidentally change. The biggest challenge for me is going to hold the camera steady - it's not that easy to hold with outstretched arms.

Yes, it's irritating as hell. That's why I usually download with Clip Grab in 1080p before watching, but it takes a few extra minutes.

I've been using the GM1 for around a week or so now, and it's a capable little camera. I haven't done a side by side test yet, but at 24p video looks every bit as good as GH3. I have sharpness turned down less than GH3 and Contrast turned down more to match the two cameras (at the moment, I'm shooting -3 sharpness, -4 contrast). I also use the Kelvin temp. Adjustment as often or more than the WB with grey card. The capacitive touch screen is excellent and I don't have the problems determining exposure I experienced with the GH3 LCD... I set the Fn1 button for ISO. I did a test comparing the kit lens to the G Vario 12-35 f/2.8, and while the kit lens is acceptable, the bulkier f/2.8 yields much more fine detail. I may use the kit lens after I've purchased the Sailfish gimbal just to keep weight down. Downside of the camera - ergonomics. Difficult to keep steady with arms outstretched. External finder would help, but you lose the stealth factor.

Just an estimation .... obviously not as good as GH3 (which is really good imho), but probably on par with GH2. Which is quite good for such a small cam.

I believe the manual says 40 minutes actual recording time in video. I was fortunate - when I purchased mine in HK over the weekend, the salesman threw in an extra battery, two 16GB SD cards and a leather case (which will give it the room I'll need to mount on a tripod with some of my faster lenses). Now, bring on the Sailfish stabilizer (my excuse for purchasing the GM1 in the first place).

why would anyone buy this camera over a G6 ?

Because it weighs just 7 ounces and will be compatible with the new Mastor Tech Sailfish SF1 Gimbal ($600) instead of spending over $3,000 for a stabilizer for the GH3/G6. Also, because it's light, if you want to carry one with a wide zoom and the other with a tele zoom, it won't break your neck.

@damphousse All the reviews of 4/3 lenses you've read are terrible?? We must not be reading the same websites, 'cause there are many fine lenses for the format...

Nice video, thanks for posting. I have had a look on youtube but most of the videos i'v found haven't really shown me what I wanted to see. Have you had any problems with video jitter/shake with the ois on? Noticed a few people mentioned that problem on personal view.

Thanks, Ben. Only once, when I switched over from slow motion to normal (24fps) did I notice some jitter, but it's hard to say whether it was the lens or me - I just happen to get tremors every now and then (it runs on my father's side of the family). The shot of the caterpillar was made in ETC mode, and even then, the optical stabilization saved my butt. I never use stabilization in post, so what you see is what you get. Just like all the talk about 'plasticy' skin tones or 'digital' looking images, I think it all comes down to lighting and correct exposure. In fact, I like this lens so much, I'm reluctant to to use my once-favorite 12-35mm f/2.8. And just in case you didn't read the details in the YouTube video, all of the shots were made with sharpness turned down to -4, with no sharpening added in post.

Have been looking at reviews and information about this lens online but was wondering if anyone has tried it? I'm thinking about expanding my selection of lenses. Currently I only have manual primes: 12mm SLR magic, 25mm Nokton & a 50mm old olympus lens (This lens moves slightly in the adaptor when focusing so is sort of useless)
I do like to us my G6 for the odd still but manly shooting video.

My concerns of this lens are that it may have a too clinical look, I love the look my nokton and slr magic give and the other concern is 2.8f fast enough on a m43? Will I loose that great shallow DOF i can get with my other lenses wide open.

Would be great to hear peoples thoughts on this lens for filmmaking and to hear other suggestions in a similar price bracket. I was thinking zoom as i don't have one and thought it may offer me more versatility over more primes but if primes fit the bill better I would be happy to consider them.

I've been using this lens for a few months now, and while I wish the construction was more confidence-inspiring (it can't compare to the feel of a Voigt, that's for sure!), I'm very pleased with it. I don't get the comments about the lens being too clinical at all. Here's a short clip I shot with the lens last week.

http://jonpais.wordpress.com/2013/11/09/sunday-afternoon-in-the-park-a/

 

@Jacek Fair enough comparison^^ 

Any advantage of using Speedbooster with a GH3 if you don't already own a collection of legacy lenses? It seems to me that purchasing something like a Cosina 17.5mm f/.95 lens would make more sense if you're looking for speed and shallow depth of field.For example, the Sigma zoom might have excellent optics and build quality, but it is a monster compared to M4/3 lenses and build quality isn't in the same league as the Voigtlander. The only advantage I see is if you are planning to get a bunch of cheap glass on eBay... I don't really see the crop factor as a compelling reason either, as just about every movie I watch has a different aspect ratio. Meanwhile, Panasonic, Olympus and Leica will most assuredly be coming out with faster glass, like the Nocticron 42.5mm f/1.2, and other manufacturers are doing the same.

@Andrew Any chance the book will also deal with how to get the best images in post from the GH3?

Okay, I guess the answer to my question is no! Anyhow, I've since learned that going into the setup menu and selecting *1 or *2 rather than A will prevent the screen brightness from changing according to the ambient light. But so far no one has been able to answer my question about manually adjusting screen brightness. On page 47 of tge GH3 owner's manual, there are instructions for adjusting monitor brightness. Anyone try this function??

I live in Vietnam and am about to pick up the GH3 in Kuala Lumpur. I've been thinking - wouldn't an LCD external monitor (something like the Swivi) make more sense than a loupe? I've read in the forums that the GH3 screen automatically changes brightness and that there is no way to disable this function. What good is a perfectly sharp picture if it isn't exposed correctly? An external monitor would have consistent brightness and could easliy be changed according to the lighting conditions. I've also read that the shoe mount has come loose on some cameras, so a monitor that attaches to the tripod screw might be preferable. Anyone experience problems with the screen brightness fluctuating while using one of these loupes?

Buy only what you really need if you're on a tight budget. I would recommend buying lenses over additional accessories like the Zacuto EVF. Zebra stripes and focus peaking are nice features, but won't make you a better filmmaker. Learn to read the histogram and practice with focusing. You could choose to buy a Varavon GH3 loupe instead, if you're really having trouble getting the focus right. It's a lot cheaper and keeps your rig compact.

Hi Jon, thanks for your response. I checked out the Varavon, it definitely looks like a good solution, for focusing anyhow, and I like that it can be rotated for easy viewing... Maybe you're right - I'd much rather spend my money on glass than a cumbersome device, no matter how well made. It seems almost insane for a hobbyist to pay $800 (for a Zacuto Flip EVF) to compensate for what Panasonic should have already included in the GH3 (zebras and peaking) - that's 2/3 the price of another body, and nearly enough to get what I think may well be my next purchase - one of the Nokton f/0.95 lenses...

I'm going through the agonies of purchasing a Panny GH3. Reason being, the lack of focus peaking while shooting video and no zebra stripes. Initially, I was going to just pick up the camera, along with a Lumix 12-35mm f/2.8 for around $2,500, but since reading in these pages how good the Zacuto Flip EVF is, I'm wondering: should I get the Zacuto and the Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 pancake lens instead? You see, I'm limited to around $2,500 and it's going to be a long while before I can purchase anything else... I'm really confused at the moment! I've been using a Panasonic TM900 for the past year, but I really like the image quality I see coming from these SLRs and MFT cameras. I plan on doing narrative work and documentaries.