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  1. I've been using MLVFS with Resolve on a Mac for about a year now, MLVs play realtime with no lag. It's had a few teething problems but the latest build is working nicely on my 6 core 2010 Mac Pro with a GTX980 running EL Capitan.

    MLVFS link: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0

    41 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said:

    You can open MLVS in Resolve or FCPX? That would be nice.

     

    Works with any app that recognises CDNGs like Resolve, Premiere, After Effects, Photoshop etc... So no FCPX.

  2. 1 hour ago, Phil A said:

    That's kinda surprising because if it's at least a stop better, that would mean the BMMCC would have only like 10 stops of DR while they claim 13 (5D III is measured at 11.7 EV DR in stills Raw). Samuel hurtdao measured the usable DR (which everyone defines somewhat different) as 12 EV for BMPCC Raw and 10.3 - 11.3 for the 5DIII Raw (with banding in the last stop of - desaturated - highlights).

    I'm still impressed with a lot of the videos shot with 5Diii ML Raw but for photography it's really fallen behind, especially for landscape stuff. The current sensors in the Sony, Nikon, etc. lineup made by Sony and Toshiba have just so much more DR that you need graduated ND filters for the 5D to get the same results in landscape photography, for some other stuff (e.g. backlit portrait with strong selective pushing) you're just out of luck due to the strong banding in pushed shadows with Canon. Despite that I think the usability of that camera is best in class, I got super happy when I saw Fuji put the little joystick into the X-Pro2. Makes me curious for what the 5D IV will bring.

    I've seen Samuel's tests. I haven't shot any charts, I'm talking about graded shots taken in the field. The 5D can be pushed further in post than the BMMCC (better highlight recovery), smoother roll-off, and its less noisy. I've tested both under numerous lighting conditions: daylight, low key tungsten, low key 5600k, daylight backlit interiors, streetlight, even gaslight. In every single test the 5D had a wider graded dynamic range. I can get the BMMCC close, but it takes a lot more effort. Sure the newer sensors are better at low ISOs, but no other DSLR/mirrorless shoots 1080p raw. I'd be all over a raw hacked X-Pro2.

    1 hour ago, Nicolas MAILLET said:

    Hi Squig,

    not to put the mess right here but the A7S is just a wonderful camera... even compared to 5D mark III. I have an A7SII and a 5d mark III Raw video... and to be honest i prefer the A7SII, for its dynamic range that is better, and for the results you can get with a non hacked camera reaaaaallly low weighted files.... You should do some tests by yourself if you haven't already.

    What I know is the A7sII has slightly better colour and less noise than the A7s, and circa 2009 rolling shutter. As for grading slog: filmmaking is masochistic enough without it.

  3. 50 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said:

    Equal or greater Dynamic Range, a million times faster workflow. Trade of is softer and less ability to grade as well as no crop mode.

     

    50 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said:

    Equal or greater Dynamic Range, a million times faster workflow. Trade of is softer and less ability to grade as well as no crop mode.

    Are you using MLVS? No need to transcode MLV files anymore.

    My first DSLR was a D90. Nikon's colour science is great. I had a D5200 too but it was a bit soft and had some nasty fixed pattern noise.

  4. So I'm over a week into testing the MK3 raw vs the BMMCC. About the only things I like more about the BMMCC are its size, its faster rolling shutter, and its noise pattern; it's filmic (no stripey fixed pattern noise, but it is noisier than the MK3, even with a speed booster). The MK3 beats the BMMCC in dynamic range (graded: at least a stop more), resolution (about equal in good light, better in low light), and it blows the BMMCC away in color (I spend way more time grading the BMMCC footage).

    I haven't bothered to include the A7s in my tests because it got relegated to a photography only role last year after the MK3 destroyed it in every single test.

    I'm curious how the D750, D500, and C100 MKII would hold up against the MK3 raw; nothing else in its weight class does.

     

  5. 16 hours ago, araucaria said:

    That's interesting, have you tried to play with the infinity adjustment helicoid of the speedbooster and see if the problems lies there? I might eventually get one of these, and if there is sample variation I will have to buy a few and keep the best one.

    That did the trick. Mine was way off. No more soft edges. One slight problem: While I was checking infinity focus the speed booster got jammed on. When I manhandled it off I noticed I'd sheared off the adjustment screw. Oops :flushed:

  6. The BMMCC has slightly more dynamic range than the 5D. The speed boosted BMMCC matches the 5D for resolution in the center, but is very soft in the corners. The speed boosted BMMCC is about a stop noisier than the 5D. The BMMCC with the SLRmagic 12mm is quite soft in the center but a stop faster at the same DOF as the 20mm speed boosted, and less soft in the corners. 

  7. Here's some resolution, dynamic range, noise, FOV and DOF comparisons. Everything in the room was strategically placed for this test (took almost six months). I desaturated it to make it easier to focus on the aforementioned elements and prevent permanent blindness :)

    BMMCC SLRmagic 12mm @ t1.6 800 ISO

    BMMCC Sigma 20mm @ f/4 + speed booster 1600 ISO

    5D MK3 raw Tokina 28-70mm @ f/5.6 6400 ISO

     

     

    BMMCC-12mm-t1.6-800-ISO.jpg

    BMMCC-20mm-f4-+-SB-1600-ISO

    5D-35mm-f5.6-6400-ISO

    BMMCC-12mm-t1.6-MFT 800-ISO

  8. Just got the Nikon speed booster. It fits! Bonus!

    So I see Premiere Pro now supports raw playback and has all the juicy raw image adjustment sliders including de-noising. I've always found Adobe camera raw to be a much better debayer than the Resolve debayer, but the After Effects workflow is painful. I'm not a huge Premiere fan but if the debayer IQ is equal to ACR I may have to switch.

  9. 7 hours ago, Lance Thorn said:

    I don't see myself doing quick on-the-fly adjustments. For my shooting, I'd just set the ISO to 800 and adjust exposure via ND or aperture.
     

    Neither did I, then when I got it I was even more certain I didn't wanna do on-the-fly adjustments. And my fingers aren't particularly fat. All of my lenses have aperture rings but I think I'm gonna get a Sigma 18-35mm and a Nikon mount speed booster (changing aperture from a menu has always been alien to me.) The Micro really needs the extra speed to keep the noise down. The only things I'll need the menu for are frame rate and shutter angle. Raw ISO is adjustable in post. Blackmagic should make the buttons assignable.

    SLRmagic 12mm @ t/1.6 800 ISO pushed 1/3 of a stop in ACR. Minimal chroma de-noising.

     

    CAM1_2016-03-21_2155_C0020_001106.jpg

    3 hours ago, Zach Ashcraft said:

    Just a friendly reminder that this forum has an *ignore user* function for those of you who would like to wade past the nonsense a little faster 

    I tried it, it doesn't work on admins.

  10. 9 hours ago, Zak Forsman said:

    it was only a .15 adjustment. i don't know what that equates to exactly but less than a 1/3 of a stop, i'm sure. barely a difference but noticeable side by side.

    Zak are you seeing any difference in highlight roll-off between the BMMCC and BMPCC?

  11. Hey Lance,

    I think the extra noise is mostly due to the BMMCC ISOs being slightly darker (<1/3 of a stop) than the BMPCC as Zak mentioned. I'm not seeing much of a difference in noise looking at the wide shot of the room. Best to test raw because prores is gonna add some compression artifacts.

  12. Just now, MattH said:

    Theres no reason why it would be or should be any faster in 60p.  If it is possible to scan the sensor in 10ms, then that appies regardless of how many times it has to scan it.  The only thin we new for certain it that it must be capable of 16.6ms because that is 1/60th of a second.  13.4ms seems like a decent all round figure andyway.

    I was thinking about how it's faster on the 5D MK3 raw, but I just remembered that's 720p :flushed:

  13. 9 hours ago, MattH said:

    Is that just raw from the bmmcc youre talking about.  How does prores hold up.  If prores could almost match 5d3 raw then that would be an acheivment, especially at 60p.

    Yeah just raw, I haven't played with prores.

    6 hours ago, Zak Forsman said:

    for rolling shutter, i want to be able to stack the cameras on top of each other. haven't done that yet. for battery life I didn't time it out but I'd say it's in the neighborhood of 2.5 times longer than the BMPCC battery would last.

    Samuel's crunched the numbers on my rolling shutter test: 13.4ms. Damn good. Beats the Pocket by 4.4ms.
    http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?303559-Measuring-rolling-shutter-put-a-number-on-this-issue!

    3 hours ago, ChemaMumford said:

    So.. RAW 60fps is possible? Anybody knows anything about that? I asked to blackmagic but they didnt answer yet.. 

    I can´t wait to get one of these babies

    3:1 compressed raw in 60p only.

    3 hours ago, BenEricson said:

    60p will unlock a lot of creativity with these cameras. I'm curious how bad the rolling shutter will be in 60p. 

    Rolling shutter should be faster in 60p. I haven't tested it, but I'm guessing it would be around 10ms.

  14. Initial impressions.

    I haven't done any proper lighting setups yet, I’ve just been pushing it to find its breaking point.

    It's a good sensor, but it's not the 5D MK3 ML raw killer I thought it might be. It's not far behind the 5D raw, but the 5D image is a little more robust (more predictable & solid overexposure and low light results). The image is less saturated than the 5D but it's red heavy. I can get them to match pretty well by boosting saturation 25%, cooling the color temp to match the 5D, and slapping filmconvert or a KD5207 LUT on both.

    One thing I do like is it doesn't have fixed pattern noise like the 5D, the noise is more filmic, but it does need a bit of denoising to get rid of the blue chroma noise.

    So far I think the 5D raw has a slight edge in resolution, color, low light ability (at equal DOF), and IQ. Dynamic range is closer than I expected, there's not much in it. At this point I think the BMMCC is going to be B-cam to the 5D, but I've got more testing to do to be 100% sure.

    It’s better than every 8bit H.264 DSLR I’ve tested including the A7s.

  15. I had a look at the manual. What really sux is you can't make any contrast, saturation, or sharpness adjustments in video mode. 6400 ISO tests look about equal to the 5D MKIII (albeit with slightly less resolution).

    http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/fuji-x-pro2/XPRO2hSLI06400NR1.HTM 

    http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-5d-mkiii/E5D3hSLI006400NR0.HTM 

    It doesn't have that nasty chroma noise like the Sonys

    http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/sony-a7s/A7ShSLI006400NR0.HTM

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