marcuswolschon

"*1 Motion image can be recorded up to 29 min 59 sec depending on the recording format and the camera’s sales area."

This is rediculus.

They really kept to this stupid 30min Limit in a professional video recording camera!!!

Are they out of their minds?

No 29min59s recording limit as a con for this camera when you compare it with the BMPCC?

I think that's MAJOR con for all these unhacked photo cameras unless you can at least import a non-EU model

that allows for PAL framerates (world-cam). Most of them are sadly NTSC only and thus don't work well

in countries with a 50Hz power grid.

Did you have any issues with a 180° shutter?

The changelog doesn't mention this as being fixed yet and for me 25ps 180° has a slight but noticable stutter.

Any other shutter angle (e.g. 172°) works fine.

At least in German, when you register: you are asked for your country when you did not enter a company name.

(I don't have a company but aparently Blackmagic doesn't think of private individuals as possible customers.)

When comparing these for video, don't forget:

* video recording limit (GH3: 30min in EU because still unhacked, BMPCC: card limit+external power option, 5D+7D ?)

* ability for an external microphone (GH3+5DmkII yes, including displayed levels, BMPCC records low, noisy audio levels, no display)

* avaliable frame rates (GH3: PAL or NTSC decided at purchase, BMPCC: all options). Think travelling abroad here.

* LANC (BMPCC only. Start/Stop okay. Zooming doesn't seem to work. Focusing not tested yet.)

Let's hope the Cinema DNG support also finds it's way into Lightroom.

I have absolutely no desire to ever enter this monthly "Creative Cloud" payment thing.

 

(You can already work with Blackmagic DNG files in Lightroom. I did it and it works fine.

 Lets you reuse your photgraphy-lightroom skills for video. ;) )

I stopped waiting for the GH3 to get hacked and thus finally support >29min59s of PAL(25fps) video recording and preordered the Pocket Cinema Camera.

Sure, in comparison I may loose high ISO capabilities, the ability to make photos, the articulated screen, wireless control of my (updated) Metz flashes. But I'll gain 13 stops of dynamic range, LANC, the outlook to future raw support, uncrypted, cheap batteries and battery charging while connected to 12V, loose weight instead of gaining bulk and weight.

 

With the 14-42X or 14mm pancake this will fit my pocket even better then the GH1s and GH2s did (and still do. B and C camera will stay GH2 and I'll sell the GH1). What do they say? The best camera is the one you actually have in your hand.

 

So it was an easy decision. The 30 minute video recording limit in Europe killed the GH3 for me.

I'm looking forward to the dynamic range.

It's the reason I had been eying fullframe cameras (and found them all catastrophically flawed for video).

In the real world pale white people are wearing black T-shirts...en masse and dance events have extreme dynamics.

I hope to compensate any low light issues with light, my fast mFT lenses or by falling back to the GH2.

I'm wondering about the noise and of the stepper motors or the shake and noise of the servo motors.

Is recording sound on the rig still possible?

Is the iOS version also shutting down the live-video of the Hero3 Black while the camera is recording like the Android version?

Why does Panasonic advertise with it's new dynamic range, yet provide no numbers for it?

Did they re-introduce the PAL/NTSC switch firmware 0.4 had that got removed in 0.5?
(=will I be able to import a JP/AU/CA/US model to not have the 30min limit in Europe instead of donating+waiting for a hack)

I guess there's no news about how the remote TTL works (flashes/IR/radio/wifi-radio) and if it's compatible with the Olympus remote TTL protocol? (=existing Metz flashes work)

Are there any comparison-shots for low-light noise, clipping and dynamic range with Hero2 and Hero3 (both using cineform)?

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This is a small concern, but is there any word on the recording time limit for Quicktime MOV mode?
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Spec says 29min 59s.
So without a hack the camera is useless for longer video.


Peaking=FOCUS peaking. Not making the areas with clipping blink.

USB 2.0 instead of USB 3.0 ???

HDMI is switchable between clean and video+controls.

Was the peaking actually mentioned in the presentation?
Anything about it that actually comes from Panasonic?

Multi aspect ratio:

http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/gh3/specifications.html
the resolutions don't look like multi-aspect.
Same horizontal resolution in 4:3 and 16:9. With a multi-aspect sensor they would be different like on the GH2.

There is mention of an Ex-Tele mode in "live view" on the spect at
http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/gh3/specifications.html

Wifi is cool but without swivel-screen and headphone jack...
The 29min59s limit will probably be removed by Magic Lantern some time in 2013 given how much progress was made on the 5DmkIII with Digic5 already.

I see one *strong* reason for a hack:
As it was never mentioned, I have to expect the 30 minute recording limit to still be present.
This would be unacceptable for recording events as opposed to scene-by-scene filmmaking.

Does anyone have hope left that the 30min recording limit will be lifted?
Aiming at a more pro market that limitaiton seems rediculus.

Lets hope we get 8x8 and not only 4x4 quantisation matrices, so we make much better use of the bandwidth we have on the GH3 camera.

how is this relevant to the question of what people use aa counter weight?

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What do you have on the back of your shoulder rigs to balance them when shooting with the light GH2?
Do you use external battery packs? (Powering what?)
Dead weight?
Perhaps an audio recorder? (But you have to rely on it's remote control now.)

Filmcity/DFocus has issues with the screws loosening and it's huuugely oversized for a GH1/GH2.
More something for a full frame body with battery grip.

The Queenox/Koolertrom/... from china has hexagonal instead of round shafts and is much smaller.
http://www.amazon.de/Quenox-Sonnenblende-Kompendium-Systeme-Schulterstativ/dp/B005TQ1J9G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344408317&sr=8-1
It isn't as fancy but works and is lightweight and small.
No filter holder. You have to cut some foam rubber for the back side yourself.

RC2.
You have to decide on mounting the plate lengthwise or across.
There are Manfrotto heads for both but many 3rd party devices (e.g. B-Grip or Calumet tripods) only support the across-mounting that blocks the battery door.

I'm using a Manfrotto photo-tripod with an alternative center rod that adds a leveling half-sphere.
For DSLR-filming it's not as heavy and bulky as a video tripod, I still have that extendable center rod only photo-tripods have and I can mount the center rod horizontally to shoot straight down from bridges and such.