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It would be funny while everybody talks about DJI camera rumors, Viltrox introduce a video camera with L mount. It makes sense from their perspective. They don't compete in still photography at first, to keep the Japanese owners of RF/E/Z unconcerned. But in cine/video, would target Panasonic and BMD.

In both cases the market was nominated by just one brand, and both market was a growing market. Full Frame ILC market is an oligopoly of three major brand, with almost no growth. Its even worse situation than when Samsung tried to enter APSC market.

They have enough money to outsource lens making to a domestic company like Viltrox. I didn't say they would release a camera with DL mount. I think they're not interested to enter this market at all. The entire ILC market is 6 million units per year, and L mount is a small part of that small market. But if, for whatever reason, they want to enter this market, they should stick with their own mount. Otherwise that would send this message that they don't believe in their own system.

Ooppsss... Sorry Andrew, please delete double posts.

Nikon is currently supporting RF mount with RED cameras, it doesn't mean they will make a RF mount mirrorless camera. In every transition process, support for non native mount makes sense; but its only a transition. If the ultimate goal wasn't to fully committed to their own mount, they wouldn't make it at the first place. There is also the Japanese side. Why you take their permission for granted? Why they should license their mount to a Chinese giant with billions of dollars of R&D? They can eat Panasonic for breakfast.

Nikon is currently supporting RF mount with RED cameras, it doesn't mean they will make a RF mount mirrorless camera. In every transition process, support for non native mount makes sense; but its only a transition. If the ultimate goal wasn't to fully committed to their own mount, they wouldn't make it at the first place. There is also the Japanese side. Why you take their permission for granted? Why they should license their mount to a Chinese giant with billions of dollars of R&D? They can eat Panasonic for breakfast.

Nikon is currently supporting RF mount with RED cameras, it doesn't mean they will make a RF mount mirrorless camera. In every transition process, support for non native mount makes sense; but its only a transition. If the ultimate goal wasn't to fully committed to their own mount, they wouldn't make it at the first place. There is also the Japanese side. Why you take their permission for granted? Why they should license their mount to a Chinese giant with billions of dollars of R&D? They can eat Panasonic for breakfast.

Nikon is currently supporting RF mount with RED cameras, it doesn't mean they will make a RF mount mirrorless camera. In every transition process, support for non native mount makes sense; but its only a transition. If the ultimate goal wasn't to fully committed to their own mount, they wouldn't make it at the first place. There is also the Japanese side. Why you take their permission for granted? Why they should license their mount to a Chinese giant with billions of dollars of R&D? They can eat Panasonic for breakfast.

That's the point. You can't make your system based on other parties structure that you can't even modify to be compatible with your proprietary features. And nobody can manage 3 mounts at the same time. Even a volume focused giant like Canon couldn't and ditched EF-M mount. This DJI camera with L mount is not even a rumor. Its a fantasy made by YouTubers who are struggling with Japanese camera menu system and wish an outsider make a modern one, while let them use Japanese glass.

Still doesn't justify licensing the L mount. It sends a terrible marketing message. And looks even more stupid when you remember their cine camera is DL mount. Everybody in the industry is trying to make a platform based on their mount that bridges between their still and cine line. DJI adopting L mount for FF still and DL for FF cine and drones, and another mount for Hasselblad is beyond stupid.

How you take 6k raw which is 6144 from 6936 pixels without crop? Its only 12% crop, but still crop. Any why on earth DJI should make a camera with L mount that has no control on when has its own mount with its own lenses?

You can extract pure Copium element under SAR comment section. How these people forget Canon owns 50% of the market? Of course they can and will make competitive camera.

Serious landscape shooters don't need IBIS, but they improved it to 10 stop! Landscape shooters always shoot raw, but they added HDR Jpeg! Studio shooters shoot in controlled lighting environment, but they added LIDAR that helps in a random dark street! All the improvements, and even pricing, are in the direction of making MF mainstream, not serving the niche, yet it doesn't video, which is the key to become mainstream.

Are you sure?

With the new firmware update released today, view assist now uses RED Technical lut.

I think that NR was a unavoidable side effect of the algorithm they used to combine the two images. Right, after ISO 800 (6400 in log profile), there is practically no difference, because both are at their High Gain territory. DR boost only works at Low Gain ISO.

Its in DR boost mode that for whatever reason Nikon didn't use. Slop based DR is irrelevant as it doesn't represent the "engineering dynamic range" of the sensor, which is at 1:1 signal ratio. Here is max DR of S1ii in still mode, that uses the DR boost mode. Its 14.5. Ignore ISO 80/63/50. They are fake. And here is Z6iii Its 12.7. So there is 1.8 stop difference.

When you see even the Germans hire more bean counters than engineers to survive in a China dominated market, you know its bad. Everybody is pursuing easy money, all under umbrella of legal system. From subscriptions to patent trolling to copyright harassment.

But Redcode is 16 bit. Overkill for a sensor with 12 stop of DR. And I'm not sure Expeed 7 can handle that.

They didn't use the full potential of that sensor in Z6iii. It can output two images per frame, one at first base ISO and one at second base ISO. Then the processor can combine them to achieve near 14 stop of DR. But as its 2x data, it takes longer to read out, hence the slow read out of S1ii when DR Boost is ON. Either Nikon's Expeed processor isn't capable enough for that task, or they didn't find that rolling shutter effect acceptable, or its a feature that needs premium license they didn't bother to pay.

So the date is Sep 10th. Still the only leaked info is Z6III sensor and large screen, nothing more. Whoever is under NDA is as tight lipped as Nikon intended.

I found this Japanese guy flexible picture profiles very pleasing. Give it a try Andrew: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/chk03x3iovaj1ewa3h6ki/ANk2wDtpX3R7ua0lv6C6LM4

Its been a standard practice in telecom industry for decades. You want to provide service to 2x wireless users? You need to upgrade your license: X dollars. But that works pretty well for them because its an enterprise world and the hardware they're selling is not something you could buy an alternative from Amazon. Arri is selling a device that is surrounded by rapidly approaching sharks that already ate its lunch in commercials, music videos, and documentary segments of the market. And I don't buy this cliche of "but studios afford that". Did you see what they used for f1 movie? Studios have a lot of money to spend, but they're not stupid.

The most annoying thing about Justin talking about anything is his tendency to express a point with 8 different senstences. I can easily summarize his ten minutes video into 30 seconds video.

Body only is 10,000 yuan in China. Its expensive for these specs, unless the target market don't give a f about specs, which apparently Fuji believes is the case.