Andrew - EOSHD

    And yet here you are on page 8.

The FZ1000 initially lacked 24p. It has it now with the latest firmware update.   To answer those Qs above...   1. LX100 is better in low light by quite some margin 2. LX100 has the better overall video quality, but they have the same codec and at ISO 200 hard to tell apart 3. LX100 again better picture quality because of larger sensor and it's less noisy. The lens plays a part. The LX100 is simply lovely at wide angle, F1.7 4. Lens quality is similar in terms of sharpness, contrast, etc. But LX100 doesn't flare too well - green splurge 5. Both are "clean" but LX100 is less noisy

Fair enough! Now let's get back to talking about why there is no high spec video on Canon cameras under $5000.

Francis Ford Coppola liked the GH2 best in the Zacuto shootout. Are some subjective opinions more important than others in the opinion soup? I do believe they are.

When does a big sample of subjective opinions turn into an objective opinion?

  Not really. You can make an EF mount mirrorless camera and still gain an EVF, smaller body, lighter, etc. It will just be 20mm deeper from screen to mount. Hardly a deal breaker! Samsung NX1 is the template. It's nice and chunky for a mirrorless camera, not toy-like - a DSLR form factor and handles like a 7D Mark II.   The Canon EF mount is actually rather adaptable...   Nikon Contax Zeiss Olympus OM Leica R M42 Pentax Pretty much every other SLR lens ever made.   And it gets even more adaptable without the mirror. No mirror hit on some Pentax lenses like the 45mm pancake.   When you have a native EF mount, you have a huge range of glass to choose from not least of all the actual EF stuff.   Canon are far too invested in optical viewfinders and apparently they're not even prepared to let us choose, because whatever they do will compete against their existing line, which they are also heavily invested in because they continue to sell well to people who don't realise that mirrorless is in many cases better technology.

The FZ1000 is all about the zoom range. If you need to go really long on the zoom then get the FZ1000. In all other respects the LX100 is better aside from the lack of slow-mo... and a few minor missing menu options. No CineLike D either. LX100 review part 1 http://www.eoshd.com/2014/11/shooting-4k-pocket-camera-exceptional-panasonic-lx100/ FZ1000 review http://www.eoshd.com/2014/11/panasonic-fz1000-review-bargain-4k-super-zoom/

At this rate Canon will catch up with a 2 year old Nikon sensor. 7D Mark II at DPReview on the studio scene is behind the D7100 (2 years old), 5D Mark III, Fuji X-T1 and Samsung NX1 for all aspects of image quality.   And the sensor in the G1 X Mark II is behind the Panasonic LX100 and Sony RX100 Mark III in all aspects of the image http://www.dxomark.com/Reviews/Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX100-sensor-review-Potent-point-and-shoot/Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX100-vs-Canon-PowerShot-G1-X-Mark-II-vs-Sony-Cyber-shot-DSC-RX100-III-Tradeoff-in-performance-against-smaller-Sony-sensor   Canon are said to be working on a dual ISO sensor with alternating pixels at low and high ISOs to extend dynamic range. The 5D Mark III already has an alternating line technique for this but Canon didn't implement it. Magic Lantern did but only unofficially.   I think Canon will definitely take a step in 2015.   The question is... will it be a catch-up step or a revolution?

Nice look! How much does it vignette at 15mm?

All 4K cameras even the $12,000 1D C have more rolling shutter in 4K mode than in 1080p. That test makes the mistake of comparing the NX1 in 4K to the A7S in 1080p, without stating the frame rate. In 60p for instance the A7S doesn't do a 4K readout of the sensor, it pixel bins, so rolling shutter is less severe as the scan to read the sensor top to bottom is a lot quicker... drastically fewer pixels being read.   I find the A7S and 1D C to have similar rolling shutter.   The NX1 is similar, maybe a smidgeon better... yet to test it formally.   In terms of sensor scan speed the NX1 is very very high, best on the market. It's doing a 6.5K readout!!

  I should give up the reviews and just say that! Would be much easier!

Actually there's a setting in the menu to give constant exposure / DOF simulation in stills live-view on Canon and Sony cameras. No need to press the DOF preview button.

I'd get the A7S over the D750 overall.

I think to fully damp high frequency jitter you have to move the sensor extremely quickly and nimbly, maybe it just isn't possible yet with such a big one. Another issue is that maybe the sensor is too close to the edge of the lens mount so it doesn't move enough? The E-M1 has more room around the sensor, more margin. Anyway I'm not an engineer, but Sony need to fix it. Let's not write it off completely - it might do a hybrid IS when a Sony OIS lens is attached, using OIS for the high frequencies and IBIS for the larger ones on all 5 axis.   I just wish at the minimum they'd match the competition... Minimal moire like D750, nice and clean... And IBIS up to E-M1 standards. Oh well.

The Sony A7 II is the first full frame mirrorless camera with 5 axis stabilisation inside (sensor shift based). It also gets some ergonomic and video upgrades such as XAVC-S at 50Mbit/s, S-LOG and 120fps. But how does image quality compare to the Sony A7S and how effective exactly is the much anticipated "SteadyShot Inside" for video? Read the full article here

It's staying the same I can assure you of that.

No wonder Canons sell so well if their users think the 70D is full frame :)

Don't get the 70D unless you need the AF. Get a used 5D Mark II and shoot raw with Magic Lantern.   The Tamron 24-70 F2.8 is a great lens, I have it and it's better than the Canon L equivalent for less money... it's wasted on a 70D. You need to appreciate it on full frame so that's why I say go for the 5D Mark II... it's only a bit more than new 70D if you find an old one on eBay.

  The A7S can go to 12,800 cleanly and it costs $2k. It's cleaner in low light at ISO 12,800 than the 1D C is at 6400 at "only 10,000 euros". Bargain I say, that 1D C. Bargain!

But not because of cameras or sensors, so your point is moot. Nice try. Some really ripe troll frying material on this thread so far

  When 1080/30p/25p or 24p is selected you have available 0.25x slow mo in the menus.   Output frame rate of the file remains 30/25/24 but sensor cranks up to give you the slow mo.   So 0.25x slow-mo is quarter speed. At 30p x 4 = 120   Looks like 120fps to 30p conformed in-camera when I shoot with it.   Still to really dive into it 100% and write the blog post about it to compare it to 120fps on the A7S and 96fps on the GH4. Until then take all this info as preliminary!

  Scoop!

Very clever :)

  It's hardly a bad 1" camera. The 1" sensor it uses is the best 1" sensor on the market.

  Maybe not on EosHD but they do on EOSHD.     Who are "They"? It's such a gross simplification you're trying to pass off as a relevant argument. The audience at EOSHD is mostly advanced amateur and pro. Enthusiasts with high knowledge and those looking to increase that knowledge. The advanced amateur filmmakers I know from my 4 years of running EOSHD just don't do what you're describing. They read reviews first and research the options. They choose the right tool for the job and one that matches their existing lenses. And nobody with high knowledge spending $3000 on a camera simply walks into a shop and blindly buys what the sales assistant recommends. You're talking about a specific type of customer with LOW knowledge who doesn't have a clue and doesn't really know the options inside out like we do... they don't know that Samsung currently have a better APS-C sensor and that Sony currently have better image quality. A Canon 60D is enough for them and it's cheaper, and it feels familiar ergonomically in the 10 seconds they have to try the cameras in the shop, so they buy it. This is the person you're describing and it's completely irrelevant to the topic you're applying it to.   Actually many of the general consumers are buying Sony at the moment especially the younger demographics, as they have always used LCDs to compose an image, and the optical viewfinder seems unnatural to them.     Big film studios have used a Panasonic. There have been major box office hits shot on the GH2. As for colour science, Panasonic VariCam - I say no more. The big accessory companies in the US like Zacuto and the smaller more specialist ones like Hot Rod Cameras are big Panasonic supporters and these guys are as much a part of the big film studio food chain as top directors and DPs. Their stuff is used all the time in major film and TV productions. If pros never used Panasonic Micro Four Thirds, Hot Rod wouldn't be doing PL adapters for them.     So what? I'm not talking about that market! I'm talking about the high knowledge enthusiast crowd which is where Canon are failing right now.   And this crowd contains a lot of "influencers". The herd follow the shepherd eventually.   For the record iMacs are not overpriced. 5K screen for a start. Samsung TVs are not overpriced. They have a full range of models right down to bargain prices and the price / performance ratio is excellent on almost all of them.     Well that's a great attitude.   Says it all really  :rolleyes: