Oliver Daniel

Looks decent however the GH5 is still the better deal (for video). The GH6 will come round before you know it and that thing will cook your dinner and order you an Uber.

This is a tough video to start with the EVA1. Lots of my HFR footage is very noisy. Also noticed that shooting at native 2500 is very noisy too. Here’s a grab from a 4k scene:

Some more observations.... 1. The noise in 2.8k sensor mode for 2K 120fps in VLOG is crazy! Could be user error though as I didn’t black balance. Will test more. 2. Footage feels much smoother and distinct compared to GH5. Colours suddenly look a lot more dull on GH5. Saying that, the GH5 holds its own. 3. White balance temp response seems off. Different to GH5 results in same situation. Maybe user error. Test more. 4. Think you must use the garbage LCD to operate playback. Hope I’m being dumb and there is a manual way. The LCD doesn’t deserve to be on this camera in any way. I’m knee deep editing the project and will share once released!

I got the SWIT 55C and it’s working great. Just don’t drop it. ? Will be looking for EVF combos later in the year. I’ll share a bit more from the EVA soon, early days but looking good. P.s extra observation, the EIS is sorta ok. Crops a little bit. If you’re used to IBIS, it’s garbage. Tested it on some general shots, wobble wobble wobble (hello warp stabiliser, we meet again!!) Anyone know of an awesome monopod which isn’t a complete pain in the ass?

Yes every case. The best camera is the one that suits you. Z cam have an advantage (which they should really market heavily) that their camera is very customisable to users needs and it’s very versatile. GH5/S is a very highly quality “all in one” pick up and shoot with expanded professional options. Stills too! BMPCC4k for exceptional quality at a low price, more niche and specialised. No camera is better than the other here, but will be better or worse for different situations and shooters. For me, I simply can’t replace the GH5 for how it serves my work. Using the BMPCC4k or ZCam instead could be problematic, but for others, a revelation.

Depends on what you shoot. Besides image quality, the GH5S has it’s advantages over the BM. The argument should be more to do with whether a camera is “best suited” to a particular shooter. Based on the everyday shooter, the Alexa 65 is the worst modern camera ever.

When you realise this camera is really 95% a RAW shooting camera with big amounts of data - it’s a fine line between being really stupid or a genius, on the basis you buy one. I didnt get it and it’s just not as versatile as the EVA1. I like the image better on the C200, but sometimes, logic needs to come before your emotions.

I had one on pre-order, and although having never used it - I didn’t go through with the order. This is mostly to do with battery life. I know there are workarounds but I don’t see much point buying a camera with this form factor, just to throw another brick on it. Also I see the screen as a valid issue. If you know that you regularly need to tilt your screen - then the BM isn’t going to work as you’d want. The Z cam is a cool design as it allows you to “create your own camera”. A lot of people who like customisation will welcome that. The BM image is lovely and will be a massive hit for crash cams on big productions. As an indie tool it hits the right spot however as a workhorse, I think the GH5S is a better option.

Not worth arguing about, it’s only cameras! ? I’ve followed them closely and they indeeed have a GS version on the brink of release - but 1-inch. They camera will very very soon have ProRes - some tester models have it and sone people have even hacked it. They are also looking at RAW. They are putting a lot of effort into the camera and it looks solid. The problem for Z Cam is that not enough people are taking them seriously. The marketing could do with a lot of work. If you’ve got a bit of spare budget lying around, I’d take a punt.

I do have the upgrade but not used it yet. The previous one worked really well and only had a couple of minor issues. Overall it was awesome. I started with the first one but didn’t really get to grips with it. Looking to use the new one extensively in the new year.

Can’t give an opinion of the C200 due to experience. From what I’ve seen I’d say I prefer the C200 image but not much to go off. I want clients to think I’m incredible so EVA1 it is! ? GH5s on the “probable list” if needed. That’s why I didn’t get it. Really needed that “middle” codec.

Recently got the EVA1 because it’s Christmas and cameras rule the world. Took it out for a spin first time on a major project in Amsterdam and Iceland. My entire kit was a right heavy bugger to carry around, silly me. GH5 came too. But will it service my creativity / ability or is this just a symptom of the camera “want, need” sickness? BRIEF GOOD THINGS - Body is nice overall. I’d look twice ? - 4k image is super lovely. I could marry it. - 2K 120fps better than competing cameras. Doesn’t look like an infected toe. - Codecs. Lots. Same as GH5. Woo. Party! BRIEF BAD THINGS - The LCD makes a good mirror. As a monitor? Get a hammer and smash it. - Switching sensor modes and HFR could make you feel unwell quickly. Slow. - The hand grip moves a bit when locked. Makes you sigh a lot and say “f*****g hell” under your breath. - More user error, but I had my IBIS hands on while shooting. Sort of forgot I’d be back to wobble club. Overall, it was robust and performed well. Images look lovely. Matches GH5 nicely. Looking forward to shooting more and not throwing it in the bin. Extra note - I used the new SWIT 55C as the Monitor which I also want to marry. Great deal! Here’s a photo from the shoot....

It’s highly, highly, highly, highly unlikely you’ll get those kind of specs in the A7SIII. I think it will look like: - 4k 60fps (10bit external) - Better lowlight, battery, EVF etc - PDAF - Higher MP - One surprise (like a 4k 120fps burst mode)

I've had the same issue, the LUT preview on the GH5 shows a lot of weird banding and blotchy colours. I stick with the Panasonic one instead for that. Applying the LUT in post though is a different story ?

I have this package. Didn’t buy it all from scratch, they kindly upgraded it from the previous generation for free. I’ve had little time with it, however I can say that it’s an incredibly innovative device and can accomplish shots you can’t do with anything else. No probs so far, will be happy to report more when I’ve had more experience.

That's some sexy ass kit! I'm bringing in the C200 to give it a go.....

FCPX is an absolute monster compared ot what it used to be - people who still doubting it are starting to sound very silly! ?

I've never used a Mavo or any Kinefinity, however I'm a huge fan of the image and the concept. The product is unique and quite a marvel, despite what some people are saying here. If I had that kind of capital lying around and I could justify the investment, it would be a strong asset to have. If you wee looking to "upgrade", maybe a Fuji X-T3 or GH5 would be best for you.

I know where you’re coming from. My wife had been shooting on her Canon 750d for a year (now 6D mk II). She specialises in newborns. I’m always astounded at the colours. The skin looks perfect. Always thought it beats the crap out of my Sony / Pana images! Fuji is the same. I get that same feeling. I can definitely get there with the GH5 or other Sony but like you say, there’s something missing you can get so easily from a Canon or Fuji image. Their motion is better too. I think this is the reason people get so infuriated with Canon. They WANT to shoot with one but the video features slam the door on most desires. Sayin’ that, I’m going to try the C200 and maybe I’ll find a new friend, and become an intolerable Canon fanboy! ?

Thanks for sharing. Trying to way up if it's too much of "a pain in the ass" when there's other less painful solutions. Saw a video of someone using a Fujifilm X-T3 with Ninja V, that looks pretty nifty! I've heard that the Tilta G2X is a better fit for the C200 - wish i could just go somewhere and try all this stuff out! ? Overall my needs have changed a bit. I'm in less need of extensive HFR and in more need of great colours, motion cadence and data rich files. Still using the GH5 more than anything else, it's a hard camera to beat for the price! No one is complaining. ?

@DBounce When using teh C200 with the Ronin-S / Glidegear - do you encounter any problems? Limitations?

This is the reason why my interest peaked in the C200. The overall feel of the image seems another level in comparison. There's an extra sauce in there. The EVA1 is still on my radar, it's an awesome camera. Just exploring the C200 from being astounded with the quality of the files. It's the Canon RAW Light storage which seems a bit scary once you do the math!

I did / still sort of have an EVA1 on order but there are stock problems with the vendor i was getting a deal from, but I'm exploring the C200 as those files are like gold! Thank you. How does the 2k 10 bit hold up? What support arm do you use for the Ronin-S?

So I've just experienced working with images from the C200.... absolutely stunned! So stunned that I'm considering getting one. Who has experience with it? @DBounce? My main reservations... Cfast2 card costs. Storage costs when shooting raw. Anyone got any pointers here?

Personally I'm seeing a huge difference between 10 bit and 8bit. The implementation on certain cameras may need some questioning, however when implemented well it's night and day. The true value of 10 bit is when I'm pushing the files around in grading, 10 bit is usually much smoother, has much less artefacts and has more tonal variety. The image quality difference comes after grading. It's so apparent that I don't use 8bit that much anymore. There's more at play with this example (codecs, sensors), but 10 bit GH5 vs 8bit A6500 is no contest. The GH5 image pulls around nicely, looks smooth and thick, whereas the A6500 image will get easily blotchy, blocky and the colours are sometimes smeary. Correcting white balance on the GH5 is easy, on the A6500 you might as well not bother. Dynamic range is better on the A6500, this is where I wish the GH5 would improve.