richg101

[quote name='galenb' timestamp='1353043078' post='21748']
Okay so if they could make an adaptor like the LA2700 but have it still be sharp at wide open and be made with DSLRs in mind, we would be good? (that's what I would want)
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exactly. for a consumer/prosumer product I think this is the only option in order to get single focusing ring (via the taking lens) and a price point to suit the market. what they need to factor in is that once everyone can acquire anamorphic if they want, the demand will no doubt go down (even before they have sold to every potential customer). I invested in anamorphic because it was the cheapest way to take dslr footage one step past every other dslr with a 50 on it. an extra 1.5k on an isco + diopter set was worth it for me because I want to shoot a short with the nex5n but want it to stand slightly above and it be a step above the same level of production shot on very high quality primes. If this comes out and is accessible to all and makes the anamorphic shooting procedure an easy one, the edge of being able to shoot sharp anamorphic will be removed from the equation.

Be wary on your perceived potential market being imaginary. I can't see it beating or matching the iscorama 36 on a performance / current ebay price level and in which case eveyone willing to buy into anamorphic has already done so.

a matched set on the other hand (based on a nice T2.0 aperture) from 35, 50, 85 and 135 with sub 1m focusing at £4-5k a pop will be killer in the rental market. a £10million budget film cant afford to hire in panavisions, but could afford your lenses to go on a sony f3, f5, f55, epic, alexa etc. And would do so too! - if they required the anamorphic look.

Trying to appeal to consumers / 'prosumers' is a waste of time on this project IMO. lots of talkers. very few do-ers online. The ones like me who talk and do, spend the silly £400+ on optex and silly £1000+ on iscoramas. I don't think there aren't enough talkers who also are crazy enough to buy into it and make the effort to embrace the limitations. It's easier to market a 50mm f0.95 lens to these people.

[quote name='EndCredits' timestamp='1353021759' post='21720']
Im really not interested in an adapter, I'd like to se a set of prime animorphic lenses, 25, 35, 50, 85, 100. That would be great. save on the dual focusing issues I read about. Woul be a better option for SLR Magic I would have thought as well as customers are not just buying one adapter they would get several lenses.
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This would be a good idea, though each lens would probably be about £4000 so not accessible to most. But if they did, I bet the hire firms would take them on as hire stock. if the hire cost for a 35, 50 and 85 were the same as a set of 3 zeiss cp2's, every proper indi film could be shot in morph if required. A popular hire package in this market is the sony f3 and the cp2 package. I'd certainly hire a set of slr magic morph primes instead of the cp2's to run on a s-log f3 for a indi feature film.

I'd like to see a century / optex style on steroids. designed for a m4/3 sensor. these type of lenses work well on m4/3 as is, focus close, allow very wide taking lenses, but need a bit of work to allow them to shine with a sensor bigger than little chip pd150 type cameras. whack a nice achromatic front element on there as standard which allows infinity focus like you get with an optex and a +0.4 tokina.

the prominent large area of the curved front element of the optex really gives that modern anamorphic flare.

this was bought a few months ago now. I just missed the new/current 'sandybridge' i7 chip, or whatever it's called by a day or so. So you might get a better processor and a lot cheaper than I did. It all works great. a few quirks I have yet to bother ironing out like it tries to boot from a external usb hd if I leave it plugged in during turn on meaning you have to shut down and remove the portable drive. also some dialogue boxes and pop up windows are written in arabic text. being a newb to mac i havnt bothered trying to rectify it. but it hasnt affected my workflow. each of these things would be quite easy to sort if I could be bothered to read how to do it.

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everything you need for building the hackintosh:-

http://www.tonymacx86.com/unibeast/

a few quirks, but overall I'm running over 2.5k£ worth of system in Apple price terms

Hey man. I'm running a hackintosh. built for lion. cuda accelerated, 16gb ram, overclocked 3.8 intel chip. came to less than £1000 including operating system and mac keyboard. I can give you the parts numbers and links to the exact motherboard firmwares. I imagine this would be a nice cost effective workstation for most demanding av needs

maybe those phase detection pixels are making things are adding complications with regard to the downscale.? Nex5n cant be beaten at the moment. sub £300/$400 for body only due to price drops. just make sure you factor in a external audio recorder (zoom h2, h4 etc)

I actually saw a 2000 go for about £300 not too many moths ago. the seller was also selling a 54 if i recall.

looks beautiful on some of the closer focus areas. way more solid looking than the typical focus through 16:9 converters

They have broken through the second wave series (nex5n, 7, 5r, etc)

http://www.nex-hack.com/topic/1125-second-wave-firmware-decryption/

[u][b]However[/b][/u] - it is a fixed focus system @ 5m, so you can't rack focus! (disregard what anyone else says, its not true - you've been warned)

I wasnt aware of this. How did the guy on the sample footage of terminus I posted get infinity? cant you just focus using the taking lens?

isco 2000 1.5x on s35. results will be better with your gh3. http://www.vimeo.com/28203770

To me I find the Moller 8/19/1.5 way overpriced at the moment for what it is. I remember seeing them go for £300 on more than a year ago. now someone is advertising his for almost £1000. it wont sell, but it means every other bloke selling their will follow suit. If you are lucky you can still find an iscormama 36 for this much on enay. Yes the images are beautiful on the moller - if anything nicer than the iscorama, with an organic feel. It also close focuses better than any other. but it has dual focus rings which make it next to impossible to actually use for most stuff. the tiny size limits it a lot with taking lens options. if it were £300 I'd say grab one. but these are getting harder to obtain than iscorama's now. in which case, spend a few hunderd more and get something you dont need to mess around and that wont limit you in lens selection.

Based on your gh3 choice you have a smaller sensor meaning it is easier to obtain usable results with focus through type anamorphics. why not look into some focus through choices, which are much cheaper. LA7200 is completely overpriced at the moment. I am yet to see a sample where it outperforms the cheaper Optex type 16:9 converters. have a look at the optex, soligor and century 16:9 anamorphics which will give you 2.35:1 on a 16:9 sensor. or try this:- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Isco-Widescreen-2000-Anamorphic-adaptor-lens-/170942055079?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item27ccf0c2a7

grab a tokina +0.4 to sharpen it up at wider apertures maybe?

This is based on my experiences. I just upgraded from a century 1609 to a iscorama 36 but have fond memories of how nice the century was to work with.

[quote name='fugue_state1' timestamp='1352779912' post='21545']
Does the mod include a removal of the coatings? This would explain the flares...
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the flares look pretty typical and similar to what i have seen on iscorama 36's. he has shot pretty flat and the barrel glow due to slightly too wide taking lens makes it look like it's flaring up more than normal.

top stuff Andrew. thanks for sharing this. I saw someone else who had diy modded their iscorama to allow the front element to be brought further to the front for closer focus. this is a beautiful little item now. I think i might have to look into the price of the service. alongside finding a nice pancake 35/40/50mm main lens to reduce overall length of taking/isco combination. I was thinking a voightlander 40mm f1.4.

Just to say, i felt the film made a turn for the 10000% better when they got to the house in Scotland. The jump in atmosphere was amazing. colours were beautiful. Superb action cinematography and lighting in the final scenes based in the house

spend 5k on lenses. hire the camera with the remaining 1k when you need it.. You'll get a bmc for under £250 a week which gives you around 4weeks use. done!:) raise the 1k for the next project from saving over the year.

http://www.vimeo.com/52891864

looks lovely. nice deep dof but still very cinematic - I love the way anamorphic still looks cinematic without needing to be shallow dof. I'll look into the Nikon v1 now

[quote name='brucker' timestamp='1352159087' post='21093']
i've been using the V1 in 100%manual with dumb adapters and old lenses,... mostly takumars, and recently i've been playing with anamorphic too.

its my only digital as i'm normally a film shooter, and i got it cos i got it really really cheap,.. so i dont have anything else to compare it to.

in manual mode it is really 100% manual, like old film body manual, which i like, but you may not,... no metering which isnt a problem cos you can see the exposure on the screen, and no focus aids of course but the screen is pretty is high res enough to get decent focus. in the anamorphic forum i've put up a couple of test shots with anamorphics.
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nice. is it full manual in video mode? shutter, iso, etc? what are the profiles like? can you get a low contrast flat profile? Cheers

Ah cool. never saw this Andrew. Nice stuff. I'm in the process of planning a RX100 tear down and lens removal to replace wit han e-mount to allow s16mm arri lenses (superspeeds, Angie zooms etc). as well as some other c-mount types. Being the same sensor size i hoped the Nikon 1's would be viable too - negating the need to rip off the zeiss zoom from the rx100, but apparently there are some limitations and lack of functions in the nikons such as no manual control. I think the RX100 will be nuts with a 10-100mm French zoom lens on there!

[quote name='Axel' timestamp='1352059674' post='21009']
Mendes came out of the viewing room.
'Roger!'
'You liked it?"
'No! What have you done! The resolution is like that of my fucking pre-production GH3.'
'Oh, that. I actually extracted all we needed. You know, it's such a pain in the ass to have to deal with all those anal something adapters ...'
'Know what you did, half-wit? You threw away 1/3rd of your sensor!'
'I'm so sorry, Sam. Must be because I am so unexperienced. Give me a second chance.'



You mean you upscaled the 1,9 MP to 4k and then added grain in post to dither it? How do you know the grain is 4k?
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1. Using the full frame and taking the effort to shoot it anamorphic - It would have looked better. The crop method is a cost cutting thing.

2. Yes. upscale to 4k, apply slight blur to soften pixel steps, overlay grain, adjust levels and sharpenss to taste. The 4k is mock 4k film grain (Expression 500T) created by a friend of mine - it has no damage, just perfect fine grain at 25p. 5 second loop of uncompressed grain. works magic - specially on the background defocus and helps with moire too.

It would be nice if people would justify how certain 'shortfalls' actually impact on any one of the users actual workflow. Freedom of speech has nothing to do with it. 99% of these comments are from people who will never be affected by such 'shortfalls'.

How about everyone moaning about the performance first go out and shoot something that actually needs footage better than what the gh3 can provide, before jumping the gun and wanting more.