rommex

Well, this is great, but I cannot see how present lenses will cope with this resolution. All professional fixed lens don't go higher than 60-70 l/mm, which leads to 20MP clean resolution max.

If they don't announce a special line of lenses for this beast, I will be totally puzzled, unless I'm wrong in my estimations.

I currently use Mamiya camera + Phase One P40+ digital back and am totally happy with the setup. So also curious how it stands against this Canon...

Hey all,

 

I developed an Android app that serves you as director's viewfinder.

 

Having your Android device with you, you can see exact framing of your Pocket camera on location, applying your lenses and boosters. Planning your lens setup has never been easier!

 

Please check out the app: Play Market

 

The app has ads in it, though not too nasty. You can always switch to a paid Magic Universal Viewfinder that has no ads, no limits and lots of cameras supported -- like BMCC, BMPC4K, 5D Mark III and 4/3 sensored-cameras.

 

Enjoy and feel free to give your feedback!

 

Thanks!

Andrew,

 

Thanks for the review. I'm curious about Canon 50D -- I remember you took some interest in ML implementation on that camera.

 

Some time ago I made a brief comparison in terms of DR between BMCC and Canon 50D (it was published at ML forum), and my wild guess was that 50D is 1-1.5 stop behind BMCC in terms of DR.

 

So what do you think of 50D? Don't you think it would be a more appropriate choice over 7D? Thanks for your opinion in advance!

 

PLEASE PLEASE notice this post buried in fan-boys' nice fights ))

You also want to set High ISO noise reduction to "Strong" in the Canon menus. Possibly, if you want better highlight roll-off turn on Auto lighting Optimizer . . . 'cause your now shooting RAW.

 

Oscar, but how these settings affect RAW? I always thought that these settings affect only post-RAW material...

Julian,

 

I've been testing with the latest test build, but am not seeing the same low-light quality you are getting in your tests.  Am I doing something wrong or setting something wrong?  I'm getting grossness at 1600 ISO.  Is there an option or something you are changing in ML?  Thanks for your help and all of great stuff going on here!  Keep up the awesome work!

 

Zach, why don't you post some DNG for us to have a look? All the output from 50D is generally amazing, so I hope this can be solved. Just share your roll )

Julian, Oscar, thanks people!

 

I keep wondering, looking at this 5-year-old hardware -- what's in the Canon's lab today, ha?

Monitoring - Just tested it with my Lillieput monitor. It works.

 

 

 

Oscar thanks a lot!

May I ask just to cast away all doubts: HDMI out is working simultaneously as RAW is being recorded to CF card?

You made my day anyway, have a good day too! )

 

PS Oops, I guess the image on the monitor shows that the camera is recording RAW )

50D vs 5D Mark II :) Notes and details/settings on Vimeo, and downloadable of course.

 

http://vimeo.com/67084920

 

Julian, with all due respect and appreciation for your time and efforts: what this test is supposed to show? Rolling Shutter? no. Moire? Hardly. Resolution? Doubt it )))) Just your thoughts behind this. Please no offense )

Thanks Tim!

 

500MB DNG sequence

 

Please download and check if the camera skips frames, or if I did something wrong in post. Big chance it's the last option :)

If the camera skips frames, that will be fixed. It didn't drop any frame during recording at 1280x960p.

Haven't spotted skipped frames on the girl's walking....

Seriously, why would you use a hacked old camera that shoots below 1080p res when working with a client? This is great news and very interesting as a curiosity, but that would be a quick way to lose a paying client.

 

Bruno, there are different Clients. Also, if the ML release becomes stable, I don't see any reason not to shoot paid projects. Anyway, the question remains and hopefully someone will answer soon. Cheers...

 I'll let you know when it's tested :)

re: 14bit to 12 or 10bit compression. The devs have tried hard for the past week but haven't succeeded (yet). See this post: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5601.msg40744;topicseen#msg40744

 

Ok, it takes some time and patience )) THANKS!

... One of the lead developers @g3gg0 has just confirmed there is no VFP in the Digic processor so it can't compute floating point calculations .

 

But cutting off 2 or 4 bits has nothing to do with floating point calculations. For the processor it takes only to perform a byte-rotating command which is extremely low-resource consuming, as far as I remember from Asm programming. Squeezing 14 bits into 10 or 12 is much simpler than debayering or encoding for sure. So I tend to have big faith in this feature. Ml team really rock....

 

Now, let's beat some dead dogs here ))))

 

Andrew reported that on 5DM3 he can both: have the RAW stream recorded on CF card and have the HDMI feed transmitted to a monitor.

 

Is there any chance 50D could do smth like this?

 

Thanks! )

@rommex - I have the 50d in my hands and compile my own ML ;)

You cannot record raw playback through HDMI :) ....YET! See my previous answer to understand why.

 

I was asking about recording encoded video feed from HDMI -- simultaneous to RAW being recorded to CF card, certainly not raw itself through HDMI... Anyway, forget it )))) -- Заблудились в трех соснах -- Transl: We are lost in a forest made up of 3 trees (joke with no offense to anybody's ego)))

Where did you read that?

.....

Needs testing to be sure.

 

Andy600, it is written here: http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Unified

 

Nobody was asking about recording RAW through HDMI, I was asking early porters if there is on opportunity to record the playback through HDMI.

 

You wrote quite obvious guesses and thoughts, but I'm expecting a generous answer from someone who has the 50D hacked in their hands.

 

Thanks!

can i put canon fd glass on that camera?thanks!

 

sure not. the camera is not THAT old, hehe )

 

@rommex: it's an early port, and a hack. Practical things might come, or they might not.

 

Julian, I'm asking practical early porters about the current alpha status. Thanks )))

Hey all,

 

Can anyone clarify about the live HDMI feed from 50D during RAW recording?

 

On ML site it says there is support for HDMI recorders but not HDMI monitors.... How is that?

 

The practical side of this question is: how can I review /  playback during shooting. Clients do require that. Thanks for all the revolutionary research!!!

Could someone resolve a contradiction in my thoughts please?

 

On one side, we all -- me totally included -- are excited about this pre-beta firmware release that is said to record RAW to a CF card. And as a result we are told that the processor is virtually idle in this process -- you can play Tetris or something even better during recording )

 

On the other hand -- several times I read in this thread that technically it is not RAW, it is some intermediary format and essentially is 14-bit YUV 422 video stream, which in my mind doesn't meet the RAW mark. More than that, the processor may be idle in this case only if the scan from the sensor comes natively in YUV 422 or something closer....

 

Here I stop to avoid writing some noobish stupid conclusions, if I haven't already.

 

Please help!! :huh:

Andrew, before chart-lovers hijack this thread:

You wrote: "I couldn’t get above 1fps in Premiere CS5.5"

I could be saying stupid silly stuff, but I couldn't overcome exactly the same rate -- 1 fps -- in Premire Pro until I realized that imported DNG sequence [u]is interpreted as a 1 fps sequence[/u]. Then I right-clicked my clips in Project Bin and in "Modify > Interpret footage..." pop-up menu changed 1fps to 24 fps. :)

wow, seems like a huge topic

Burnet, could you give any hints on the technique? Is it two layers with luma mapping or something?

Your shots do look like LCE (like Unsharp Mask in Photoshop) to me, though.

Andrew,

I second the call for simplicity )

The division of the forum by cameras made cinema5d less human. Really.

Right now the forum of eoshd.com is driven by your posts, very information-packed and cutting edge ones. Keep it up, drive it.

Good luck and enjoy this community.
Thnx for your efforts.

Wise selection of ports, of lens mount; the modular concept...

I guess in a year or so we'll be recalling the BMCC fever with an ironic smile  :P

at least _they_ can live in the world of perfect cameras now ))

I agree there is no sense to follow Canon's updates.

I use both still and video capability of my 7D, and own quite a line of EF glass. So I plan to downgrade from 7D to 550D and use the money for the future BMCC. I don't care about the 7D "imminent" firmware update (gosh, it took them SO long to do any update).

550D is known as the best Magic Lantern'friendly camera, so I will finally use ML.

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"a sensor so powerful it is vacuum cooled."

Speechless...because it's such a nonsense.
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It has so much vacuum in its cooling system as the device called vacuum cleaner does)

Try to relax and have a flexible mind.