Andrew Reid

Ah yes remember you had some. Is the 5K full frame or a crop? And it’s 4:3 only? Tried the new L.neo colour profiles? basically Panasonic film styles

Not seen colour this nice since the Digital Bolex! Think I may need to pick one up

Thee camera that shall not be spoken about. It got a HUGE firmware update. Now does 5K and is basically a Leica SL2 for half price. I seem to remember AF works a lot better on S1R especially in 4K/60p full frame than in 4K on the S1 and S1H. Anyone tested this? I don't think it can do V-LOG? But it has HLG now. And it is one of the very few full frame 4K/60p cams for under $1500 used. So maybe it should be more on our radar than it was?

Highlight roll off is a common problem at the moment. Try this with it, I'll give you a free copy https://www.eoshd.com/dynamic-range-enhancer-H264-H265/

Cheers for posting, very detailed. Did you notice anything like a crop mode, for 2x or Super 16mm lenses in 4K?

Yeah I have the Beastgrip one. Problem is it needs an extremely close minimum focus distance and doesn't work well with larger smartphone sensors, especially in the corners where it looks like it's gone ten rounds with a cat loving workshop host. Yes everything would be smaller. Ground glass could be smaller, lens is certainly smaller. I would ideally like to go crazy and dismantle a smartphone, take all the gubbins out and put it in a GH2!! Or at least as follows... Detach lens from main sensor. 3D print holder for the sensor and mainboard, put it behind the hollowed out GH2's mount Detach the screen of course and have that on a hinge at the back. It is definitely not easy but surely doable with a few precision tools!!

Thanks for the latest, good stuff. Since 2014 you have been giving us these so that is commitment to say the least!

It's ok they are already re-shooting with it themselves!

As I said OM-1 went in cardboard box at post office after so it was a bit difficult to reshoot

Might be a couple of things. Strong AA filter in the camera. Thicker filter stack glass. Does it only look this soft at fast apertures or at F5.6 as well?

Scrapped it.

Just a thought... It would be great to modify a smartphone so that it has only a sensor with no lens over it, and on the back cover a screw mount for C-mount lenses. Then it really would play in the same league as the Digital Bolex in RAW. It would need a lot of machining and new metal parts on the back to make it work and hope your OS doesn't notice that AF is missing! But not beyond the realms of possibility is it?

Proof that 10bit is almost pointless 🙂

I know it gets you more shots and freedom but it doesn't look as good does it. Even on the best systems it still does weird stuff like slowly rotating the frame for no reason, or panning carries on when you don't want it to, just knocks your framing off by a slight amount but enough to be distracting.

Did you buy the OM-1 or the E-M1X?

I agree with you, I think these are all very useful tools, makes shooting faster, easier and gets you a shot you might otherwise miss. The point I am making however is that none of these tools seem to look as good as the techniques they're making obsolete! AF looks worse than a human focus puller / manual focus. IBIS looks worse than a tripod. And 10bit looks about the same as 8bit most of the time. As for LOG it does often look very good but it all depends how good you are at grading it. I remember when it first came into the mainstream (with SLOG on A7S) and 90% of what was shot this way looked worse than a standard rec.709 profile, but I guess that's not LOG's fault!

I do like the E-M1X's image overall, has a bit more mojo, more reliable WB and bit more detail in 4K. It is only 8bit but at a much higher bitrate than OM1. Perhaps more interesting comparison would be between E-M1X and the GH6. Maybe throw in the A7 IV which I have, Sigma Fp-L and EOS R5. Micro Four Thirds can't compete at high ISOs but the rest is fair game.

I hear Trump is a huge fan of IBIS especially on his gun sight when the FBI come knocking.

I colossally messed up my OM-1 vs E-M1 X comparison which is bad because I put the OM-1 in a cardboard box at the end of it and took it to the post office. So don't think I'll be reshooting that one any time soon. The OM-1 was somehow set to digital stabiliser mode and so all the images are a bit cropped and a bit soft. Also although I checked several times it was in OM LOG 400 the resulting files don't look anything like LOG, so there's that. I don't really regret my decision to keep the E-M1 X instead and save some pounds. As where pounds are, shillings follow! Yes another case of overhyped new camera by the usual shills again. Not to say it isn't a great little camera (although it can't really do ISO 3200/6400) Not to say I didn't like certain aspects of it like the new EVF which is very good. But I think Panasonic S1 and Sigma Fp trounce it for overall image quality to be honest.

LOG For me there is no substitute to What You See Is What You Get. Whenever I shoot LOG I tend to forget to look at tonality and contrast. Sometimes even a limit on dynamic range is useful because it forces you to prioritise which part of the frame to expose for. Whenever I shoot LOG I tend to get lazy and forget this. I do use a view assist when available or load a LUT onto the camera, but then you are postponing the judgement of what works for a scene to post. And what a fucking nightmare it is choosing LUTs and grading every shot differently in post, when you could have got it all right in camera, in the moment of the shoot! So LOG is overrated and a hinderance. RAW on the other hand, that's much nicer. You don't even need to grade RAW, you can just let the meta data handle it. If there is a white balance change that needs doing, you can do it without weird results. RAW is all about ultimate image quality so give me that over LOG any day. IBIS IBIS is king of ALL the lazy unmotivated camera movement we see today. It's a huge convenience doing away with a tripod, as well as the biggest single loss of the last 10 years! There is simply no substitute. Floaty, warpy, too smooth, too robotic, IBIS has it all in equal measure. The least cinematic camera feature you can choose beyond shooting it all in 30fps! Also when you are sticking something on a tripod that doesn't have IBIS like the Sigma Fp you are actually locked down into one frame. That really makes you think about the composition and refine it, because you're stuck with it! All my early stuff was shot on a tripod. I never recaptured that shooting style with IBIS. Even the slightest small movement detracts from the calmness of a locked down shot. With IBIS you can only fake a locked down shot and everyone knows you couldn't really be arsed to do it properly! 10bit It is hailed as the biggest new feature of modern times and everybody shits on 8bit, but whenever I put the final images side by side from a decent 8bit codec and a modern 10bit one, why do they always look the fucking same? AF A bit like IBIS autofocus is a great shot getter when you're rushing and making a hack of it. I used to use a single S-AF to grab focus before locking it on the GH2 and recording the unfolding scene with the focus not moving. Short of hiring a professional Hollywood focus puller that is the best any of us can do, because as soon as you hand things over to the camera you may as well call it a home movie and be done with it. Oops it's shifted to the background. Oops it's wobbling. Oops the subject has moved but the focus hasn't. Ooops that's not what I meant. Autofocus is an affront to filmmaking. The best AF is too perfect. Nails the subject in focus with no human intention behind the focus pull. If I see another gimbal shot with autofocus I will kill myself. So just to sum up... Maybe we could have an EOSHD challenge... No LOG, no 10bit, no IBIS, no AF, just a tripod, you, a manual focus lens and a camera like the Sigma Fp or Samsung NX1? Let's see how the results look compared to the next day when we all go back to the usual modern style of shooting! And pick the best!

Internal codec good enough for me. Don't like the Ninja V.

Talking of 10bit, it is a very low bitrate in 4K/24p, something like 77 mbit. I did a comparison with the E-M1 X if anyone is interested it will be on blog tonight. The spoiler is I sold the OM-1. And the AF was better on E-M1 X as well which is big surprise. Maybe they are going to get the most of the new hardware with an OM-1 X instead for more pricey sums.

I am THIS close to ending the forum and bringing the focus back onto the blog. So either the place improves and gets it act together, or I leave and the forum ends. This week.

I don't believe that, but at same time not willing to provide a publicity platform for my most hated click weasel competitors, or some guy who wants to flog his LUTs in every post. It isn't too difficult to moderate, the way it works is I have a light touch for about 5 years with someone like webrunner5 and let him speak, then if I find he is STILL flooding the forum worth worthless chit chat after that long amount of time has elapsed I find I have had enough of reading it and say time's up, last orders please, out you go. EOSHD is a site about cameras and shooting with cameras. I don't see why it should be structured differently. At end of the day this is not about me. The forum is the user generated part of the site. It is up to users to ask what THEY can do that's interesting for the forum, not point at the moderator and tell him how he should run the community. Sounds like a recipe for nonsense to me that does.

OK lord saviour off you go, leave me to die with my ship captain. I am not worthy of your help and the 3 spam posts in a row under every topic. I will sail on into the iceberg come what may (rather than read any more of it). Or maybe jump off the ship myself if the going gets really tough (and you decide to keep posting). I am sure there will be a huge mutiny now we have reached the end of your reign as forum leader. As for many decades people have been coming to EOSHD not to learn about the cameras they spend $1000s on but to hear from Webrunner5 about windows movie maker. By the way... It isn't "on its death bed" at all. In fact if you stop posting it will be very much on the rise again as there will be less spam under every single piece of content on half the entire site. It's not like I didn't try to hint about it again and again so you would hopefully after several years stop posting in every thread with lame duck opinions that are barely even on topic. I know you are well meaning. But it is trashing the place. Time's up.