MC Wedding Films

12 hours ago, mmatthews said:

Thank you Andrew, I'm excited to get this working on my a7s mk 1. I tried the original settings, then the a6xxx settings after having a weird problem (i'm presuming with sgamut, like you said). Although you mentioned trying v2 of the a6xxx settings. The PDF I received this evening had no version marking in the title, although I can see it was created Dec 07. Would this be the latest version?

Thank you!

When I downloaded the new one (after already having V1) the PDF was titled, "EOSHD-Pro-Color-Sony-Update" so it's possible he removed the title for all NEW buyers so as not to confuse them.  Dec 7 is the creation date for V2.  The original PDF V1 was made Nov 27th.

6 hours ago, Davey said:

Inspired by MC Wedding Films (Phase 0). All jpeg stills from the A7sii using the Zeiss 16-35mm f4:

Looks good!  What Kelvin did you end up shooting at?  Looks nice so I'll guess 6800K due to the sunset, maybe over 7k?

That looks great and much more alive with people!  Well done.

18 hours ago, Ben J. said:

Can someone please do a comparison of how the profile compares to a canon in standard profile untouched? I'm considering buying sony cameras but I want to see how far apart the color is with sony eoshd procolor vs canon out of the box

Also, has anybody tried lowering the magenta color depth to see if that resolves this magenta issue?

Hey!  As Davey mentioned, go to Page 2 where I posted this exact thing!  I didn't change the magenta in the PP but I did change the Color Phase, which does something similar with the colors.

Andrew are you still selling your Sony's off or are you keeping it since you're now happy with the color?  I saw a post Nov 16 2016 that stated you were selling it all off/

4 hours ago, Mike Hope said:

Just bought EOS HD and received V2.0 pdf

However didn't succeed in adjusting Custom X White Balance to anything other than predefined 5500K. No matter what I point the camera at it sticks to 5500K when I enter "White Balance Adjustment" (A-B and G-M setting entered succefully).

Any hints on that?

edit: just found out myself ...

Sony a6300 V1.10

So you discovered how?  The guide did indeed cover how to get 3600K and 4300K, you just need to point it at tungsten sources and not have daylight in the shot so much.

On December 8, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Andrew Reid said:

5 hours ago, JeremyDulac said:

Could someone explain to me the whole no color depth thing on a6300/a6500? I am able to adjust my color depth in s gamut and sgamut3.cine. Is it just that it doesnt actually do anything? A little confused, because I would definitely prefer to use sgamut3.cine as its the latest Sony color science.

Correct.  Andrew mentioned it up there somewhere.  From Andrew, "They do not. The Colour Depth settings when adjusted don't change the image with S-Gamut selected on the A6300 / A6500."  If you have the updated guide, it'll tell you what the new settings are for the 6300/6500 .

14 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

Nice colours but the brightness change I am not seeing with the updated settings on my A6500.

If anything the new settings are a smidgeon darker.

You're in full manual mode right?

Wanna try a few more tests and see what is happening?

Cheers!

I'll test the settings for my 6300 with both the original and the updated version 2 guide.  I shoot 100% manual but I have my dial turned to the movie mode (with manual exposure) bc the 'M' mode on the dial can occasionally cause issues with my lens adapter.  I have never had an issue in the 'film strip' dial dedicated movie mode.

2 hours ago, Eric Johnson said:

White Balance is 5500k B2M2 all natural daylight with a bounce. My Wife and I run a food blog and film those overhead recipe videos hence why i have this as my setup.

https://youtu.be/e4xPeyFAEp4

That's looking fantastic--and like you said I noticed the brighter luma in the YT video.  I just need to test this stuff under higher ISO as well.

2 hours ago, Nicholas Natteau said:

Hi Andrew,

I wanted to thank you for this fantastic EOSHD Pro picture profile you put together. I ordered and downloaded it last week. I can't be happier with the results!!! The examples below were shot in your PP1 profile and lit by a single keylight: Zylight Z90 @5600K. ISO below 800, I don't recall the exact #.

This the closest I've ever been able to get skin tones on my Sony A7s2 to look like those from my old Canon 1DC. I've never been able to make skin tones on my A7s2 look that good, even using Matt Johnson's great PP8 Cine4 mode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-APqhJLhPfE&t=23s. And that's what I was using until now. 

Congratulations Andrew, and thank you again for all the time and effort you put into getting it right. Please see these before and after test shots I did on myself and a mannequin head. All I did was use the white balance eye dropper in Premiere, and done.  

How did you use the eyedropper on a face?  Did you have a white card to set WB in post?  This looks great and the straight out of camera shots are exactly what mine are looking like, so I've just been shooting at a higher kelvin (for daylight balanced)

No new PDF settings yet, but give him some time to release it as he wants to!

20 minutes ago, Davey said:

I have the a7s2 and the a7s, hoping that it wasn't an FS5 or something similar. I was going to pull the trigger (not that it would break the bank) when first viewing Andrew's video but got distracted by the pitchforks and burning torches. That fourth image - Pro Colour at 6600K and colour phase 0 - looks like it came straight out of the same Canon camera as the first image. Out of every test that has been posted, yours is the most informative.

Oh the trigger on the EOSPRO settings!  I thought you meant the Sony A7s2.  Yes, of course I definitely didn't want to say the settings but I had personally noticed the skin in daylight (it was 1p in Indiana) looked a little closer with Phase at 0.  It's modified in his guide and I think it's worth noting that may very well be better having it as Andrew has it for night skin tone shots.  I haven't done much testing at night with a proper video light with high CRI.

37 minutes ago, Davey said:

I was hoping that that would be the case. Buying tonight

The Canon or the Sony?  :P  This is the best Sony skin tones I've ever seen with zero CC or grade.

22 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

@MC Wedding Films

Which Sony camera?

Silly me, I know better.  Canon was 5Dm3 and Sony A7s2

Here's a bunch of skin tone shots in direct sun with zero post.  What I did here was keep the exact same settings and Canon 70-200 f/2.8 between the Canon shot and the Sony EOS PRO shots.  The Canon Standard shot is just there for reference.  These are frame grabs from video.  I shot some extra shots with Color Phase at 0 and I think when the WB is at 6600K (even though the Canon is at 5600K) those 2 shots match closest.  Basically, the profile wants higher Kelvin numbers it appears to match with Canon SOOC.  

1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said:

That goes without saying for everything, always test new stuff before a shoot.

There are some bugs in Sony's colour handling. The different behaviour of colour depth from A7S II to A6300 shouldn't be happening.

I have made a second profile with a wider sweet spot, it delivers closer results across the different cameras, and you will all be getting it for free if you bought the original.

I am also working on something else completely new and an A6500 review.

I am now mega happy with Sony's colour after all this work.

I might sell my 1D X Mark II.

Woah, sell the 1DXmkii?  Holy heck.  I'm currently testing the A7s2 Pro Color and will soon post some results...WITH skin tones, can you believe it.