Gavin Greenwalt

4 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

I thought the patent is an entire camera system, not just the codec?

Filing date is 2008. When was the 6:1 or greater compression first demonstrated or sold? Were the first RED ONE cameras sold on basis that they had no RAW capabilities whatsoever?

Filing date was originally April 17 2007. Red announcing compressed RAW on April 20 2006.

The only novel things claimed are the 6:1 raw compression on > 2k. But both of those qualifiers show what bullshit the patent is. 2048px wide..obvious/prior art. 2049px... Non obvious, no prior art. 

Similarly... Everybody and their mother can imagine 5:1 compression but suddenly at 6:1 it's a new concept. ?

The preprocessing details will probably survive but the patent covering 4k raw (because cineform already had 2k) will probably die imo. 

As someone who was once threatened to be "sued into oblivion" for legally reverse engineering Redcode and publishing the details of the tech I have no love for Jannnard's legal team either.  But this seems like bullshit and Jinni Tech woefully ignorant.

The patent is on redcode and I clearly remember redcode not being announced initially. There were questions of how good of image you would get if you couldn't afford the fiber optic module and huge raid. Then at NAB and in Gibby's interview they added the secret sauce. At that point they said they were giving Graeme free reign to use whatever tech he thought would be best with zero legacy consideration so they also didn't prescribe a solution to him.

Red has an overly broad patent on something that is IMO very obvious "hey what if the computer you record jpeg2000 to was the camera itself and not tethered!" no duh. But it appears to cross its i's and dot its t's. 

8 hours ago, Mattias Burling said:

Some bullets from that link.

• 14+ stops of dynamic range with V-Log
• s35mm
• Dual Native ISO of 800/5000
• EF Mount
• Prores 444 up to 30p and Prores Hq up to 60p
• 240fps cropped
• Built in NDs
• 6 lbs
• $18k Body only and $24k body + EVF

Feels like a tough sell to me vs the lower end RED market they're clearly gunning for.   If you hate RED and are willing to pay a premium you might as well go Arri Mini and be done with it.

Scarlet-W

• 14+ ("16.5+") stops of dynamic range.
• 5k supersampled to 4k.
• S35mm
• Native ISO of 2000
• EF Mount or Nikon mount or PL Mount or Leica Mount or Panavision Mount or...
• ProRes 4:2:2 (1080p though not 4k)
• 300fps cropped
• no built in ND.
• 3.5 lbs
• $14,500 w/ monitor and battery plate and 120GB memory card.