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  1. I understand that you want to block DPreview,  I used to have a DPreview account, but i left a few years ago.  I cant remember excectly why, but the strange gold/silver ratings of camera's or the inconsistency of listing the downsides like "No internal raw to jpg processing" or just  the general moderating of their forums didn't help

    Also around that time their forum still had a post limit of 150 posts per thread😂
    A different tech site where I am also a member can have threads as long as 20000 posts

     

  2. Olympus has made losses in the last couple of years on the camera business.  They have enough profits in other markets to cover up the losses. But i think the investors weren't quite happy. So its understandable they wanted to have it sold.

    I don't know what caused the downfall. Every brand is dealing with declining sales. So that can't be the reason. Poor management and choices? - maybe. I did notice a trend of moving away from the lower end. Many expensive pro lenses, like the 150-400. if it will ever be in production.


     

  3. The camera's in smartphones are getting better and better, but so do "traditional" camera's

    And you cant beat physics. for example a f2 lens on a 1/2" sensor (~30mm2) wont cut it to a larger aps-c(370mm2) camera with even a kitlens.remember f2 on such small sensor its equivalent to  f11 (full frame)  due to the 5.41 crop factor.

    Until flat lenses become available, the camera and lenses will be limited due to the lack of space in a smartphone. (nobody likes a big protrusion on their phone) you want more quality? get a bigger camera

    Many consumer compact camera's like the ixus are spec wise not better than a smartphone, maybe except the zoom function. they usually offer the same sensor size, smaller screen, also lack many direct controls for setting iso shutter speed etc.

    Prosumer/enthousiast camera's are becoming the only reasonable step up from a smartphone. although the definition of "prosumer" is kind of vague.  I think entry level dslr's  are under that group too. most users wont care much about taking control, they just want better pictures. as for enthusiasts the newer camera's seems to differentiate more and more towards a high end, including a higher price point. here is a list of introduction prices:

    a6000: 650€
    a6300: 1250€
    a6500: 1700€

    sony a7: 1500€
    sony a7II: 1700€

    Sony A7s: 2400€
    Sony a7sII: 3400€

    RX100 Mk1: 650€
    RX100 Mk2: 750€
    RX100 Mk3: 850€
    RX100 Mk4: 1100€
    RX100 Mk5: 1200€

    And that worries me. enthousiast that are serious about  photography (not the Instagram kind) a camera should still be at a acceptable price.

    I dont think apps are the best way. the way i see it, its a way of asking money for something they shoud be in the camera in the first place. Like the intervalometer in the sony a7.


     

  4. 1 hour ago, dr_jon said:

    Hey, I swapped f2.8 and f1.4 in one of my posts (although no-one noticed, not that it stopped me going "Duh!" as I spotted it just outside the edit window), so I think I beat you ;-)

    Here you go, for people to read and laugh at my ability to go from brain to keyboard...

    "Not really, the light per unit area (which is what the f-stop is) will be 2 stops less, but there is 4x (i.e. 2 stops) the area at that illumination level, so the amount of light captured to make the image is the same between the f2.8 on m43 and f1.4 on FF. Also the noise in the light depends on the amount of light you capture, so will also be the same."

    I think you have quoted the wrong person, i didn't mention anything about equivalency ;)

  5. 2 hours ago, dr_jon said:

    Am I reading this incorrectly? It seems to agree with me to a decent approximation. The f8 and m43 lines intersect at about 13MP, which is about the 8MP (in a 16:9 crop) needed for 4k.

    8MP is 4k indeed. But if Panasonic wants to do 6k readout, or even 8k(~34MP) in the future,the diffraction starts at f4.5, which is limited.
    Though looking at the chart again the diffraction is less than I expected, my bad.

     

  6. 16 minutes ago, dr_jon said:

    If you're delivering a 4k image, as the article suggested (downscaling 6k, not producing 6k) diffraction isn't that much of a problem. At f8 (so equivalent to f16 DoF on FF - that's plenty, yes?) the blur caused by diffraction will be 10.7um diameter (regardless of format, plus generally, although not evenly, declining towards the edges). This will begin to get noticeable at pixel sizes under about 5.35um, but will only increase slowly (it'll be worse under 3.5um). Taking 4k from a 17.3mm wide (m43) sensor means each video pixel is effectively 4.2um wide. You'll see some diffraction softening, but not much - and that's with a lot of DoF. (You get more softening from debayering the sensor than minor amounts of diffraction.)

    Here is a graph a made once on the left there is the pixel size.
    the dotted lines are the f numbers.
    10 um doest leave much room for sharpness (less then 2MP for m43)

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  7. Full frame GH5/6?  , i dont see that happening. Why?

     

    1. The four thirds mount is too small for full frame sensor, meaning they will need to make a new mount, rendering all other m43/mft mount glass useless.
      Canon M mount and Sony E mount started with APS-C , but with FF possibilities. Sony took advantage of this, and canon...well we know how "serious" they are about Mirrorless,but its possible for canon to come up with a Full frame Eos M camera. and keep the same mount.
    2. If you create a new mount, you need to provide glass, and creating a lens lineup takes time. Panasonic needs to keep developing m43, its has still a lot of gaps to fill. Keeping 2 systems alive is hard. Sony hasn't released a new E mount (=aps-c) lens in years, they want to build upon FE first. (poor A mount)

    On the other hand, Panasonic needs a bigger sensor, why? 8K.
    Panasonic says they see a 8K future.To provide that they need a 32MP sensor. Even if it is theoretical possible to cram 32 megapixel on a 43 sensor, there is no resolution befit, because of diffraction. (if you shoot f2.8 and up) The only way out is using super fast glass(while keeping 32MP of sharpness) or increase sensor area.

    II suspect to see a aps-c GH5/6 camera some day. APS-C does fit, and they can keep their m43 lineup. Its the most sensible option. JVC already has a APS-C m43 video camera.









     

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