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  1. @ BurnetRhoades: Agreed. I was honestly expecting more detail considering the film was shot in 65mm and got a true end to end 4K DI. It was beautiful and I made sure to pay Arclight prices to see it but I was honestly hoping for more resolution than I got. Again I am lucky enough to have good eyes to take it all in as well. Many people, unfortunately, do not. Final thought on Samsara in 4K: As you know this type of film does not have fast panning but when there was any moderately fast dollying or panning that immediately cut any real world resolution benefit over 2K. 4K was really best displayed on the slow moving aerial wide shots and close ups of intricate clothing or something that does not move like the giant sand mandala (sic?).
  2. To be fair it was much better than "meh" but not "blowing my mind" like a true shot in imax, projected in imax (with no effects) type film. Also to be fair it was not in the cinerama dome but instead in one of the main complex theaters. This means that the optical quality will be much better than the dome (no distortion) but also not as big (allowing one to easily scrutinize extra detail). I actually think 4K is more impressive in medium to small sized theaters because that is where you get the complete saturation of detail in a small place in the sweet spot of your field of vision. This where it starts to look like a window. A large theater screen makes it look more like something better than 2K but not life changing. Kind of like how the jump from a 2mp to 4mp camera is a welcome improvement but not a whole new strata of visual fidelity. (NOTE: I realize that going from 2k (approx 2mp) to 4K (approx 8mp) is much bigger than a 2mp to 4mp jump. It's that it "felt" like a 2mp to 4mp type jump in still photography.
  3. Not to nitpick but this is untrue. Very very few screens are showing in true 4K at this moment in time. There are hundreds or maybe even thousands of the Sony Dual lens 3D systems in theaters across america that say they are 4K in the Sony branded pre-roll in the theater. These are really projectors that have 2 x 2K projection systems in one projector body. They are usually projecting from 2K (2D) DCPs or 2K 3D DCPs that are actually split between each lens/sensor and projected interleaved (which does not actually give you anywhere near 4K projection). Additionally, the current Digital Imax system does the same thing with two completely separate interleaved 2K Christie Cinema projectors projecting from a 4K DCP. This translates to a very, very slight increase in detail over a single 2K system (and is done to give each eye more light). This translates to very few true 4K DCPs being projected on true 4K projectors. Even in specialty situations where we have a movie like Prometheus that was captured at 5K native. I believe I read that Prometheus was posted as a full 2K DI. The Visual effect sequences were definitely rendered in 2K. So this means that even when they had specialty 4K screenings at select locations those were partially or completely 2K content on a 4K system. Even in a true 4K situation, such as when I saw Samsara projected at the Arclight Hollywood in 4K it was stunning but not nearly as much of an improvement over 2K (in a high end theater setting mind you) as you would hope. And this is coming from a guy with 20/10 vision who has overseen dozens of premieres and special screenings (many of them at the arclight). 4k is amazing but it's not as amazing as it should be or as prevalent as you are led to believe. The single most stunning resolution experience I have seen was the Dark Night in Imax at Universal City. Those prints were supposedly struck from the negatives. This means the viewer was seeing something between 8k and 16k on the screen during the imax sequences. THAT was what I always hoped true 4K would look like. Someday.
  4. Andrew: Since a 600D version is in progress do you think a 60D version will come to pass realistically? I cannot afford to upgrade for many years due to more important expenses in life (Wife and kids!). The 60D is however almost the same camera on the inside if I'm not mistaken. Both use a single Digic 4, both write to SD. What do you think the possibility is of a 60D w/ the fastest SD card available outputting to something over 480p in raw?
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