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If you gain something in SN ratio, sure you lose something in details. Its almost impossible to extract "true" 4k bayer from 6k bayer.

ZR 4k raw is not line skipped. Its read out speed is the same as 6k raw. So it uses the whole pixels, but some kind of digital downconversion happens that has SN ratio of 3k image but resolution of 4k image, with a downside of some high frequency aliasing.

Nikon gave this camera to so many different people I wonder how they did even find them. Some just have 500 followers, but are locally known in their country. Maybe Jarred Land is behind this.

Then it should be a lot noisier, even with baked in NR. I guess Apple embedded a brightness map metadata, like they did for gain map in HDR Jpeg XL, so raw data stays intact but displayed darker in underexposure shot.

There is almost no noise difference between the base and -3. If there would be no penalty for underexposure, thats not underexposure. Maybe it darkens the image without changing the exposure parameters while reporting otherwise. You can test that with a moving subject.

I understand people are excited that we now have some flexibility to color grade our smartphone image like its a cine cam, but why you go so extreme? 😄 I call it "i can't see shit" contrast.

Lets acknowledge that ProResRAW is a shitty codec.

Size comparison site updated their list. ZR vs. FX3 ZR vs. S9 And C50 lol

Video oriented cameras is always a niche. Especially in this economy and what we see in AI developments. Look at this pretty serious response of a pro video shooter: I predict two years from now many of these folks will just give up. Budgets are already so low that they're bean counting the price of CFe cards they have to buy.

Is it just me or ZR skin tone is more like Arri than RED Komodo X 🤭 2:20 https://youtu.be/MfmajecSwqk

Nikon and Panasonic to be precise 😉 But its not new thing. Shilltubers have been like this for years. What I find interesting is.. what Canon engineering are doing exactly? I mean how you get 1 stop lower DR on a BSI sensor, compared to a semi stacked sensor known for its low DR?

Canon managed to make a slower sensor than ZR sensor, twice the price, with less DR.

Mediastorm's review of ZR got 1.4m views in China

Why they're using the word "switching" so much? Why should anyone switch? You just add the camera to the rest of your gears if it works for you well. Especially with such an adaptable mount. BTW, he used BH filter to count the lenses, which is like this: But if you select only full frame lenses, and only AF ones, and exclude lens kits (like same lenses with bundled ND filter or something), you get this:

I think C70 will still have more latitude to play with. But honestly people are way too much obsessed with these numbers. Past 12 stop, we either digging for random shot noise, or struggle to defeat sun. This shot by Roger Deakins would be rejected by YouTubers, in their mission impossible of saving highlights:

If you ask why they don't add another hole to make it more secure on tripod, here is your answer. Its bottom of Z6iii. There is no room for another one lol

You have to keep what you save to buy CFe cards 😉

Its all speculation, but it makes sense to switch from 12bit to 14bit in Super35 mode. The main reason almost all cameras are at 12bit in full frame video is basically power consumption. But in crop modes, they have to deal with less resolution, so the total consumption stays low. There is also another theory. Canon is known for applying NR to the raw video. Maybe the CPU is not powerful enough to apply the same amount of NR applied to Super35, to the 7k image, or if it does, there will be overheating/power consumption issues. Or maybe we're reading too much between the line and the official spec table has incorrect number and will be edited soon.

Phil Holland comment

Not trying to jump into your apparently long discussion, but EXACT look of Full Frame can be achieved on M43, but you need faster lens, and once you go that fast, the lens becomes so big and heavy that the size advantage of the M43 format loses its relevance at that point. But the difference between 44mm wide sensor and 36mm wide sensor is far less than FF and M43. Its basically f/1.2 vs. f/1.4. And at the same time, lens makers of the two systems went opposite direction. FF lenses are now bigger and faster than 44mm MF lenses, cause FF systems want to differentiate themselves from low end cameras, even at the expense of size/weight, while MF systems want to break the collective mindset that MF=Bulky/Inconvenient.

It would be funny if turns out RED and Nikon couldn't push Davinci developers to address the issue with nraw rendering and decided to fix it themselves by a metadata trick.

Yea, and I suggested considering NRAW normal as R3S LQ. But you have to be careful about base ISOs.

The Reddit source https://www.reddit.com/r/Nikon/s/v8tkSHdsZa

The fact that NRAW High bitrate is exactly same as R3D NE, could be a hint

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