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[quote author=Andrew Reid - EOSHD link=topic=579.msg3903#msg3903 date=1334328315] <p><img class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-7920\" title=\"Canon C100\" src=\"http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/canon-c100.jpg\" alt=\"Canon C100\" width=\"660\" height=\"361\" /></p> <p>Do you work for Paramount Studios? If the answer is no then Canon do not any more have an appealing interchangeable lens video camera for you (or even the consumer market) under $15,000.</p> <p>Forget Ron Howard. This needs fixing first.</p> <p><a href=\"http://www.eoshd.com/content/7919/a-canon-video-camera-for-the-rest-of-us-outside-hollywood/\"><strong>Read full article</strong></a></p> [/quote] Can I ask what may seem to be a silly question? Why is there no mention of Nikon in this article? Some background: my studio has been stills only, on canon, for years. Now we are 50% video and we produce great work in the Caribbean for serious people like Red Bull in extreme locations, underwater etc. I think that the DSLR revolution was for guys like me. We can't lug a lot of gear, certainly not two formats. But we need great options in both fields video and stills. So recently I got frustrated with canons lack of headphones and clean hdmi out, and when nikon announced the d800 I literally SWITCHED OUR ENTIRE SETUP. Drastic I know. FYI for our commercial work in more manageable situations we do use the sony fs100 and plan to also stock the fs700. But they won't help me take a great still photo hanging from the edge of a waterfall just before switching to video. This is us: www.jtography.com So... Yes I think canon have completely lost sight of WHY the 5Dmkii was so awesome in the first place. Of all the brands you mentioned they have another market segment to protect (except red and arri) so I really see Nikon (who have finally caught up) as being the one best positioned to advance the dslr format. 4k has no place I. A dslr form factor, just like large xlr connectors. Canon is making cameras that should stay as great "concepts". Their range has become so disparate and seemingly specialized. Anyway, I know no brand has really nailed - as you point out in your excellent article - but I was wondering where the d800 and the d4 fall in your analysis. Cheers!

Can you confirm if this apples to the internal codec only? Ie, does it also occur on a atomos? That's the setup I've ordered....

[quote author=Andrew Reid - EOSHD link=topic=377.msg2386#msg2386 date=1331333628] I really just care about resolution since the cameras are so close in other aspects. I have crop on GH2 don't need it on full frame really, since it makes noise worse. HDMI on D800 will be only thing that swings it for me. If the image quality through that is better than 5D Mark III it is big news. Unlikely but possible. However, it is a bad omen that Nikon have tried so hard to prevent footage shot via HDMI being out in the open. It is a big improvement for Nikon in video land though. They have clearly taken notice of the reason for such high 5D Mark II sales. [/quote] Quote from: Axilrod on March 10, 2012, 10:38:38 AM Quote from: Shawn_Lights on March 10, 2012, 10:04:08 AM I expect it to be in the $4,000 - $6,000 range to compete with the FS100. The C300 competes with the F3. +1, just because it's 4k doesn't mean it's going to be absurdly expensive.  Technology is getting cheaper by the day, and it's just a DSLR body with a different sensor.  If you took a 1DX ($6800), removed the 12FPS, the AF system, and the mirror (in favor of evf) and swap the sensor.  I mean a true video DSLR that all of the photography features are removed from.  I just don't see what you could add to that camera to justify a $10k price tag.  Absolutely no way it will be more than the C300 though, I'll bet anything on that. I feel like the only reason they even previewed that camera at the C300 event was to appease the "little people" that were disappointed that the C300 was way out of their price range.  I mean why show a product that early in development and take away the surprise from an official announcement? This worries me a lot. Am I the only person in the world who wants an awesome hybrid camera? What I was hoping the 1DX would be. There's no headphones and no clean hdmi out. It's an awesome stills camera though. Then if you want more video features you have to jump (if you stay with canon) to the C300 which can't take a great photograph. I don't want a cheap 4k concept camera. I want a $12-$13k sick HYBRID DSLR that does everything we know canon is capable of doing at this price range. I work in some extreme environments and my clients include Red Bull; I'm not usually in a position to have two bodies, or even two photographers, in some locations because sometimes you get the shot by pure magic. With Canon EVERY SHOOT HAS BECOME A COMPROMISE. So I was rather hoping the concept camera would be the top of their hybrid line. From many comments here I'd say I might be wrong, or that the date has nothing to do with the physical camera but a film. Maybe canon won't make this camera because my segment is too small. I think it's because they sell pro video gear too. I have four busted 5D mkiis and have to reinvest right now. (I also have a broken 5D underwater housing) The timing is very interesting for me right now. RIGHT NOW the best hybrid camera appears, to me, to be the Nikon D4. And part of me is suspicious that Nikon have decided that because they don't produce video cameras at all, they aren't going to hold back. I've pre-ordered two D4s and some glass and will see how that fares. DISCLAIMER: (1) I am not trying to start some sort of Nikon / Canon war here. I am really just expressing my frustration at what might seem to be a unique situation (not IMO at least). I am VERY interested to hear from others in a similar situation. (2) My studio does a lot of commercial work too an we've enjoyed the relatively high bit rate on the Canon 5D mkii despite the moire etc. see our work at [url=http://www.jtography.com]www.jtography.com[/url] I'm only entertaining Nikon because we'll use the atoms ninjas on safer sets and in studio for clean hdmi - Something I felt that canon out to have offered us right now. Oh and I'm looking forward to sharing the live view on clients' iPads on set too. I felt that was a neat way of circumnavigating the small screen issues of DSLRs. ...there were a lot of factors. Thoughts?