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7 hours ago, IronFilm said:

Using the same lens on both? Have you swapped around to try a few other lenses on the F3 as well?

 

Yes, the same lens on both.

7 hours ago, hmcindie said:

The first Sony A7s had these artifacts in it's 1080p mode. Black lines against big contrast & white. It looked shit (and no reviews ever seemed to mention it). There was a previous Sony camera that also had those and supposedly fixed by a firmware update (read about that 4 years ago in some forum). It was a Sony thing, atleast a couple of models back.

Do the sharpening settings affect it?

Yes, I think the sharpening settings would affect it. However, I'm in the S-Log mode via the Gamma select in the Video Set menu, so there is no way to adjust this. I believe all added sharpening would removed with this setting. 

No, it's not the lens. I've compared the images with it and another camera (JVC LS300), and it doesn't occur on that one. It's a tough one. The firmware on the camera is 1.31, so it's not been updated to the last firmware update. This one doesn't have the option of choosing S-Log on the Picture Profiles menu. I think I should probably update it, but I'm not sure it'll make a difference. Does updating the firmware via SxS affect the RGB 444 installed on the camera?

I've been testing out the camera and recording out to ProRes via 3G SDI in the 3G RGB 444 S-Log mode. I've tried changing the settings, going out from the other SDI out, using the 1.5G YCbCr 422  setting, changing the PsF to 59.94i for pull-down, but nothing has changed this.

The artifact is much more noticeable when it appears at hard edges between bright and dark—in the images, you'll notice it appears either black, green, or "cyan". It doesn't seem to go away, which is a pity because it is a very noticeable "digital" artifact in an otherwise strong image—with the acceptation of a bit of colored aliasing appearing on certain patterns.

I'm going to have to assume that this is what the camera is like and that there isn't a way to avoid it, but I wanted to seek confirmation on the matter from other F3 users on this forum. 

Here are some still images including the artifacts—all are, with one exception, “graded” from the S-Log, and therefore making the artifact more noticeable:

https://images2.imgbox.com/61/76/yC6p69Ur_o.png

https://images2.imgbox.com/cf/1a/ol6AkhUj_o.png

https://images2.imgbox.com/4e/31/UKgHWDR2_o.png

https://images2.imgbox.com/b0/ea/XHeIRzlc_o.png

https://images2.imgbox.com/40/63/8PXd9KCn_o.png

Interesting results.

Camera B!

Hi everybody, I'm new here. I just had a question. How does the D5500 compare to the D5600?

I'm currently using a 800D/T7i. The picture style I use is the VisionColor. I can get great "images" out of it. The weakest point is that the noise in darker spots, even at ISO 100, can look a bit square -- like blocking.

While you can certainly create exceptional things with most any capable camera, I'm slightly interested in something like these two Nikons. I have heard that rolling shutter is minimal on the D5500 as well. And I'm interested in the Flat profile Nikon's created for these cameras.