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For a still image? Photons to photos has never measured one - their highest measured DR is between 13 and 14 stops on some Phase One. They have the A7V and the GFX 100 II about equal at ISO 80/100. If you want some landscape photos from my GFX 100 II, I can certainly share a few. For video, it's not exactly a mirrorless (but same sensor as in the mirrorless S1R II), but supposedly the Ronin 4D 8K in DR expansion mode has 16.3 total stops on the cined chart, but like most cameras, a lot less than that at a usable SNR.

It honestly gives me a "plastic feel". I don't know, it's like the texture of the things appearing in the video can't be related to anything "alive", anything that materially exists and so can transmit an impression of actual feeling. And on a side note, that disappearing shoe... The channel's description : H E L P

The high dynamic range (using DGO technology) in the Sony A7 V is for low to middle ISO stills when using the mechanical shutter; DGO is not used for video, and certainly there won't be any 16-stop dynamic range at ISO 3200 or 8000. The claimed 16 stops is likely achieved on a signficantly downsampled ISO 100 still image and criteria based on engineering dynamic range (SNR = 1). Do the EOSHD website and browsers used by visitors support high dynamic range photos on Super Retina XDR and other HDR screens? Otherwise, I'm not sure what the OP is looking to see. Having lower noise can't harm the image and it's up to the user to make use of the higher fidelity, or not make use of it.

I've been away from this forum for a while, since around the time I got my XT3 and thought that was the endgame camera for hybrid shooting. In many ways, I was right, until this summer when it dropped and cracked the screen. The first and hopefully last time I've ever dropped a camera. I sent it away to be repaired, however, after paying the €200 to replace the screen, I went to collect it and was informed by the front desk that they don't actually have the parts for the repair, so they've upgraded me to an XT5 at no extra cost. That's a service I can get behind and they've for sure earned a life-long customer with that! Anyone got any starter tips, or lesser known, but great features to look outfor with this camera?

Don't upgrade a firmware on Sony cameras! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkh07otLQoU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uP5UYPv9Js Same problems on A7R V, A1...

It worths mentioning G9II, a sort of GH7 in a S5 body.

i still remember that viral video clip taken by gh1 bragging that it can match red one. i personally went the canon and later ml road. i bought 2 brand new g3, hacked one, but sent as gifts. i liked em5's color and ibis.

" Doug JensenApril 27th, 2011 04:55 AM Re: Upcoming hands-on comparison of F3, FS100 and AF100 from Philip Bloom Having used a pre-production FS100 myself, I can agree with most of Phil's impressions of the camera. However, he says " . . . HDMI and it is only 8 bit 422 . . ." I have no way of testing it myself, but I'm pretty sure that is incorrect. I have been told personally by Juan Martinez at Sony USA that the HDMI output is 8-bit 4:4:4. And if you don't have a recorder that can handle 4:4:4, then the camera will automatically send 4:2:2. At least that is what I have been told by the man who should know." FS100 can do hdmi out 8 bit 4:4:4. I have not tried myself yet. I only use hdmi for a monitor.

They are outdated in that they are older cameras that don't have all the bells and whistles of the most modern camera released but in terms of image quality, I think every single one still holds up. I'd very much miss the lack of IBIS and shutter degree, but I could absolutely do my work with three GH3 bodies if I had to and I don't think most people would notice or care. The cons were low light and auto focus (though I still think the GH5's auto focus was usable in real situations despite others proclaiming it to be unusable.) You also needed to hack the GH2 to get the most out of it, so that could be seen as a con for it. The pros? Great IBIS in the cameras that have it (the GH5's IBIS still blows away IBIS in Sony's newest cameras), the battery life was incredible (at least up to the GH5; haven't used the GH6 or 7), no overheating, excellent image quality, decent audio preamps (GH3 on, from my experience), plus you get all the benefits of usinga M43 camera, like the smaller lenses and the ability to adapt anything.

There isn't a single camera in the entire GH line that wouldn't be usable today. If you want 4K, you'd need to go GH4 or newer. If you want reliable video autofocus, the only option is the GH7. For the best low-light performance, the GH5s is probably your best bet (though I'm not sure if the GH6 or GH7 have great low light performance). The older models struggled more in low light. With the GH1 and GH2, hacking them for more bitrate is suggested for best quality. The most popular models were the GH2 and GH5, but the GH7 seems also to be well-regarded.

are they outdated? which one do you prefer? pros and cons

Anyway I'm going to lock the thread, it's been completely wreaked as usual and it would be better to go back to cameras.

I think praising someone that dangerous, with that kind of low moral standing, for being a good at executing a business plan is missing the point, but then each to their own. His PayPal chum is even worse. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/10/peter-thiel-lectures-antichrist

A lot of this criticism assumes that value only comes from personally inventing things or never having bad ideas. That’s not how execution works. Ideas are cheap. Execution is what matters. Plenty of people had ideas about reusable rockets, EVs, satellite internet, or brain–computer interfaces long before Musk. What almost no one managed to do was turn those ideas into working, scaled systems in industries where startups usually fail. SpaceX didn’t win because Musk designs fuel tanks. It won because it executed faster and cheaper than legacy aerospace giants with decades of experience. Tesla didn’t invent EVs, but it forced the entire auto industry to electrify years earlier than planned. Starlink is the largest satellite constellation ever deployed, providing connectivity where no real alternative existed. Yes, he has bad ideas. Every aggressive executor does. The difference is that his companies survive them and still outperform competitors. You don’t have to like Musk — but dismissing his role because he isn’t the inventor misses what execution actually means.

Easy to fall upwards when you have 498 billion in the bank! What with all that money his personal life is still a binfire. Only have to look at that to see the true character of the man. All the messy multiple affairs and abandoned sons, daughters. That's what he's singularly able to achieve merely as a man when he's not got the billionaire oligarch hat on. When he's got the billions and the companies he's able to take the credit for other people's hard work and that's how he built his entire reputation.

There have been numerous stories over the years, apocryphal maybe, but they were coming out even when the media loved Muskrat... anyway, the stories were frequently about how employees of companies like SpaceX believed him to be an absolute idiot and upper management believed that their main role with him was to block him from getting in the way. One of the most famous stories was about some fuel tank that was fracturing in flight. The engineers had some ideas, but Muskrat came up with some idea to put a layer of fast-set glue/resin on the outside that would stay liquid - and when the cracks started to appear in the tank, the adhesive would leak out and set, automatically healing the crack. All of the best engineers in the company said that the idea could not possibly work and explained why it couldn't. Yet, Muskrat insisted on an all hands on deck and everybody worked non-stop with the vessel and the resin until... Muskrat finally acknowledged that the idea couldn't possibly work. It sort of fits with a man who has basically failed upward for most of his life - such as how he got fired as CEO of PayPal after nearly running the company into bankruptcy with his bad ideas, but still owning a bunch of stock so that when Thiel transformed it to a profitable company and sold it to eBay, Muskrat came out with billions. Would SpaceX exist without him? No. Would Starlink exist without SpaceX? Also no. Did he invent Starlink? Also no. Would Neuralink exist without him? No, and who cares? It's a good accessibility play for people who can't otherwise operate a computer, but for the rest of us, do you know anybody who is loudly complaining that they don't have some shitty device in their head that will ultimately be used to shovel ads directly into their brain? Do you spend every day glaring at your computer wishing that your brain could directly control it? For Tesla, he didn't invent it at all. Outside of having a strong first mover advantage in terms of modern electric cars, they aren't very good. Quality control has always been lacking. Muskrat decides that for full self driving, they don't need industry-standard tools like proximity sensors, but instead they'll rely only on cameras. He did, apparently, invent the truck that looks like a small child drew it and which is almost universally reviled. So yay. Otherwise, what has Muskrat invented? Hyperloop - the dumbest mass transit invention in the history of humanity? 12 years later, there isn't a single operating hyperloop that you can go ride. And it turns out that vactrain concepts had existed for years before he "invented" that too. So... has he had a single novel idea in his entire history? Or is his "genius" really just in ways to exploit existing wealth to extract more money, mostly from the government?

I interviewed a university professor recently that said that these AI companies don’t even understand how their own AI’s work. Unlike any other technology in history where all the work it took to create the tech means the creators have a complete understanding of how it works, he says AI is “alien tech” to its makers. Puts a new perspective on all these tech companies and the markets betting so big on AI… they have little idea what will happen. So glad the entire U.S. economy is propped up by it at the moment.

Yet it would not exist without him.

Elon Musk did not invent SpaceX alone. He stood on: NASA contracts public research global supply chains skilled labor pools created by public education Not to mention striking it lucky with PayPal and the sellout to eBay for billions.

I really don't think your hurt feelings should come into the conversation at all. They are not going to further the debate at all. "Feelings" are ironically why the world is in such a mess in the first place. If people listened and thought about reconsidering their misguided opinions when someone tells them the facts, the world would be a better place but instead they get all emotional, like a baby.

I want to see it. Real world subjects only (like landscape scenes, people, and so on).

Thanks for the very open-minded and respectful exchange.