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Is Samsung shutting down their camera business?

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Contact your local camera shop and request a special order. Where I live the specialist camera stores don't stock Samsung products, but they will order one in for you if you want it. Whether they can do that or not will depend if the Samsung subsidiary in your country carries the product or not though. If they do, then you should be able to order one.

Thanks. 

It's available at some of the larger retailers in the UK (Wex Photographic), but there has been a huge decline in the amount of stockists for the camera. Usually this happens when stock is running low and/or a new model is on the horizon. With the rumours, it makes you think it's related but I hope not. 

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In Canada there was only one store that I am aware of that physically stocked the NX1 (The Camera Store). There are some that list it, but you still need a special order to actually get one. When the NX1 first came out, a number of stores listed it in their catalogs, but stopped doing that shortly after release. So even back then it was obvious that Samsung were changing the way the way they were selling the camera and limiting distribution to very few points within the market. In fact, when the NX1 first came out, most of the other NX lenses at The Camera Store were listed as discontinued and in limited supply (they no longer list them as such, as of a few months ago).

From a physical stores perspective, if Samsung are discontinuing the lower end consumer items that make up the bulk of a stores sales, and the products they are continuing are in critically short supply (as the NX1 was when it was released) then it is hard to rationalize listing it as a product for sale. You can't display a camera when there are no display copies available.

I think a lot of these rumors stem from strategic decisions that Samsung began implementing quite a long time ago.

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Trad retail channels have been crap for Samsung's cameras.

Full of poorly educated customers who buy Canikon and Sony and not much else. The retailers just push the big three really.

Maybe Samsung has had enough and is pulling out of the consumer market and going pro.

It's possible they will discontinue all the compacts and get rid of the NX500

But who is to say they won't continue the tech they started with the NX1?

It just seems like such a waste to have invested so much into the tech, only to never use it again. Smartphones don't count.

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Trad retail channels have been crap for Samsung's cameras.

Full of poorly educated customers who buy Canikon and Sony and not much else. The retailers just push the big three really.

Maybe Samsung has had enough and is pulling out of the consumer market and going pro.

It's possible they will discontinue all the compacts and get rid of the NX500

But who is to say they won't continue the tech they started with the NX1?

It just seems like such a waste to have invested so much into the tech, only to never use it again. Smartphones don't count.

I highly HIGHLY doubt they are shutting down. I have a friend Dan Allen who made the cover of the TIME magazine for his footage from the Baltimore riots who just received a Samsung sponsorship like 2 months ago. It wouldn't make sense for them to sponsor photographers and pull out the market. Same as you I am guessing they are saying to hell with the consumer line and going pro. When you think about it the NX1 in terms of specs, performance and reception (winning DP Review and TIPA awards) Samsung knows they are becoming that underdog in the market that could shake things up like what Panasonic started with the GH2

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Same as you I am guessing they are saying to hell with the consumer line and going pro. 

This would fall in line with them contacting the MagicLantern guys (if that was true). Perhaps, they're really going to disrupt with internal raw, 10 bit, yaddayadda. Speculicious! :d

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It may be Samsung are going to only deal with online retailers from now on.

The high street will probably die before the NX series does.

Samsung have always had a tiny presence in retail stores, it wouldn't surprise me if they just said "sod this, we'll concentrate our efforts elsewhere"

So what if a few stores are dropping Samsung and a few rumours are flying as a result that they are ending camera development? I don't believe it.

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I think they are done. The NX mount was a bad design... and they know it. Too bad really, they bought serious innovation.

I don't necessarily believe rumours, however... 

  • NX cameras have drastically reduced in retailer listings the past few months. 
  • Current stock from retailers who have the camera are very very low. (Samsung themselves on Amazon UK have 2 in stock). 
  • European retailers are slashing the price of NX stuff for clearance. 
  • No firmware updates. 
  • Samsung are doing almost nothing to promote the cameras. 
  • Reports point to their camera division reducing in size. 

BUT... 

  • The Curator (an NX and Samsung funded film) was recently released. 
  • Some photographers have received sponsorship from Samsung in the past 2 months. 
  • Samsung released an official statement in September to say the BX cameras would continue. 

 

The reason I'm bothered is that I've seriously been considering getting an NX1 for some video stuff and stills. I can get one with the 16-50s premium lens for £1400 new. 

It would be great to get some clarification, as it would be a bummer to invest in a "dead" system. Hopefully not the case!

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I don't necessarily believe rumours, however... 

  • NX cameras have drastically reduced in retailer listings the past few months. 
  • Current stock from retailers who have the camera are very very low. (Samsung themselves on Amazon UK have 2 in stock). 
  • European retailers are slashing the price of NX stuff for clearance. 
  • No firmware updates. 
  • Samsung are doing almost nothing to promote the cameras. 
  • Reports point to their camera division reducing in size. 

BUT... 

  • The Curator (an NX and Samsung funded film) was recently released. 
  • Some photographers have received sponsorship from Samsung in the past 2 months. 
  • Samsung released an official statement in September to say the BX cameras would continue. 

 

The reason I'm bothered is that I've seriously been considering getting an NX1 for some video stuff and stills. I can get one with the 16-50s premium lens for £1400 new. 

It would be great to get some clarification, as it would be a bummer to invest in a "dead" system. Hopefully not the case!

im playing it safe & only using adapted lenses. Only thing that scares me is the resale value possibly plummeting but then again...I ended up selling my a7s w/ battery grip for 1500 because Sony's products lose value insanely quick lol. But yeah they'll be fine sticking with online retailers. Im not considering lack of firmware updates a sign of doom when sony,panasonic of Canon never even drop updates 

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A new NX1 is now selling for the equivalent of $925 here in Sweden! It certainly looks like they are clearing out their stock.

It will drop more. We havent gotten the clear out sale like in Norway yet. The current price has been for a while. Its also the same price that I payed when it was newly released. They had a 20% discount to try and get sales going.

By sping a used NX1 will be $4-500. Maybe time to pick one up again :)

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BUT... 

  • The Curator (an NX and Samsung funded film) was recently released. 
  • Some photographers have received sponsorship from Samsung in the past 2 months. 

Don't particularly think those are great indicators of anything.

Some day a guy just comes in and says 'ok, guys, that's it, we're done, pack your things and get collect your last paycheck'. Pretty sure it's an emotionless decision by people involved in numbers and making the tough calls/cuts. Could be timed right in the middle of something, could have a bit convenient timing as well. Things were just as they were going, so why wouldn't there be a film and sponsorships? Maybe they were waiting for the yearly figures prognosis and some breakpoint? Untill that time not wanting to create concern with the employees, just keeping things going along.

I think people who got the NX1 have been researching it... seeing what it's capable of... putting doubt about stuff like the lens mount aside. I'd say the camera is mostly ideal for hybrid and video shooters. But to be honest... how many people really have the need for 4K?

Canon isn't innovating... doesn't even give the latest Rebels (750D/760D) 1080/60p, let alone 4K. And they still sell these cameras like hot cakes. Doesn't matter how fancy the features are... your average Joe doesn't research the capabilities of the NX1. Uninformed he steps into an electronics store (not even a camera store), goes to the camera section... doesn't find anyone there and asks the guy from the Hi-Fi section to recommend him a camera. He's like 'eh... Canon? Nikon maybe? I'll have to find and ask my colleague'. Finally, the camera sales rep shows up and to be honest doesn't seem to have much of a clue what he's talking about himself, but says 'you can't go wrong with Canon, I have been shooting Canon myself for years'. 'Yeah, I always see them at events and some of my acquaintances shoot Canon as well'. Guy ends up buying a Canon. He just doesn't know any better. But that's the mass market. And Samsung is a mass market brand. If they're realizing the potential for them is far less than anticipated, I can see how they'd just throw in the towel in the ring... and I think that might be what's happening here.

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I don't think Samsung is so stupid as to think that they will challenge long established brand such as Canon or Sony in just one generation of prosumers camera (NX1). That the NX1 isn't available in any "offline" shop (in europe mostly) is really strange, but what is stranger is that even the NX500 is impossible to find (in France for ex I haven't seen any in main photo shops). 
Both products are excellent, got a very warm welcome from the critics, but the marketing has been horrible, and the visibility non existent. However what is even stranger, is that the software support for the NX1 has been incredible so far. With major add ons, like Gamma DR, higher bitrate, bug fixes, Digital Stabilisation, etc. That seems like a big contradiction because on one hand Samsung gives the impression that it doesn't want to invest too much on those new cameras (marketing) but on the other hand the software support is the best I have ever seen from any camera manufacturer before (comparing to free upgrades). 

And just when everyone says that Samsung is quitting, they suddenly release a new promotional video... 

It's absolutely impossible to follow through Samsung commercial strategy and marketing politics...

EDIT : Also I'd like to add that Samsung is not present at the french Photo Show (salon de la Photo) that's happening right now... But to be fair I don't think they ever went to this show. 

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Thanks for the link : So if you compare on the website you posted, the NX1 is available in like 20 shops vs 150 for the A7S...

But as for me I live in France, if I wanted to buy a NX1 today I would have to import from Italy or Germany...

That's just insane. 

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Don't particularly think those are great indicators of anything.

Some day a guy just comes in and says 'ok, guys, that's it, we're done, pack your things and get collect your last paycheck'. Pretty sure it's an emotionless decision by people involved in numbers and making the tough calls/cuts. Could be timed right in the middle of something, could have a bit convenient timing as well. Things were just as they were going, so why wouldn't there be a film and sponsorships? Maybe they were waiting for the yearly figures prognosis and some breakpoint? Untill that time not wanting to create concern with the employees, just keeping things going along.

I think people who got the NX1 have been researching it... seeing what it's capable of... putting doubt about stuff like the lens mount aside. I'd say the camera is mostly ideal for hybrid and video shooters. But to be honest... how many people really have the need for 4K?

Canon isn't innovating... doesn't even give the latest Rebels (750D/760D) 1080/60p, let alone 4K. And they still sell these cameras like hot cakes. Doesn't matter how fancy the features are... your average Joe doesn't research the capabilities of the NX1. Uninformed he steps into an electronics store (not even a camera store), goes to the camera section... doesn't find anyone there and asks the guy from the Hi-Fi section to recommend him a camera. He's like 'eh... Canon? Nikon maybe? I'll have to find and ask my colleague'. Finally, the camera sales rep shows up and to be honest doesn't seem to have much of a clue what he's talking about himself, but says 'you can't go wrong with Canon, I have been shooting Canon myself for years'. 'Yeah, I always see them at events and some of my acquaintances shoot Canon as well'. Guy ends up buying a Canon. He just doesn't know any better. But that's the mass market. And Samsung is a mass market brand. If they're realizing the potential for them is far less than anticipated, I can see how they'd just throw in the towel in the ring... and I think that might be what's happening here.

like i've said before people are too fussy over cameras and the brand loyalty is annoying. Give me a canon t3i or the nikon d3100 i started off with and I like many others are gonna kill it. Composition and aesthetic is second nature to me at this point. If anything is going to hold me back in this day and age it wont be the camera. If Samsung is shutting down that will be unfortunate, not likely but unfortunate. And whether its a gopro or a canon i'll keep creating amazing images lol

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