Is Samsung shutting down their camera business?

[Sekhar 218]

Great, so all this hype is over (almost) nothing, talk about anticlimax. With all the time/energy we put into these ~500 posts, we could have made a feature film.

[Andrew Reid 10,206]

Great, so all this hype is over (almost) nothing

You're welcome to believe this is almost nothing.

If you're not interested then move along to the other threads where we put time and energy into filmmaking.

[Beritar 41]

I don't think the NX1 is better than Gh4 for 800 ISO and more. The NX1 is cleaner yes, but the massive noise reduction applied removes the grain by blurring fine detail.
It would be great to be able to choose the noise reduction level for video.

[Bandido 10]

I wonder how are Samsung Camera Division and the NX1 doing in North America.

[Andrew Reid 10,206]

I don't think the NX1 is better than Gh4 for 800 ISO and more. The NX1 is cleaner yes, but the massive noise reduction applied removes the grain by blurring fine detail.
It would be great to be able to choose the noise reduction level for video.

The GH4 has a haze of noise reducing colour saturation over the image at ISO 800.

If it is fine grain you want just add it in post.

The NX1 doesn't have any heavier noise reduction than normal and it can be turned off in the menus. Heavy NR would smudge fine details and low contrast details. These areas are outstanding at ISO 800 on the NX1 compared to the GH4. It just doesn't have any noise to start with. It has a hell of a high signal to noise ratio.

I wonder how are Samsung Camera Division and the NX1 doing in North America.

Probably well enough to see out Christmas but not well enough to see out the possibility of Samsung's camera division in South Korea not existing any more.

But hey, that is just my opinion.

[ricardo_sousa11 467]

Yesterday I did a few videos with ISO 800 and 2000, will share today some prints, IMO it looks very clean in ISO 2000, I was quite impressed.

[Stab 130]

There is no way to mount the Samsung 16-50 lens on a GH3 or GH4 right? That actually would be brilliant

[sandro 93]

There is no way to mount the Samsung 16-50 lens on a GH3 or GH4 right? That actually would be brilliant

Even if you did it would be useless, no aperture control e no focus ring response!

[Stab 130]

Even if you did it would be useless, no aperture control e no focus ring response!

If there was some kind of Speed Booster then the aperture control could be doable but I didn't know the focus ring is focus by wire... I hate electronic lenses

[MattH 203]

Now im thinking the division knew they were on the chopping block a while back, so they put all they had into the NX1 in a last-ditch effort. When it didn't set the world on fire they were finished.

[John Wang 1]

Official statement from Samsung to EOSHD

http://www.eoshd.com/2015/11/official-statement-samsung-withdraws-from-camera-market-in-germany/

HI Andrew,

If I want to record 4k externally on NX1 which is the best product to try?

Thanks.

John

[cho7 0]

It's really a shame because Samsung did the best quality/price pro camera of the world. I hope there Will be new firmwares though. 

[astrotripper 0]

All this is not all that surprising. To me, it looked like Samsung never treated NX seriously. At least in my country.

It actually looked like they were not even interested in selling their cameras. And even less interested in marketing them.

And that super cool NX1? Those nice high-end lenses? They might as well not exist.  Samsung is not selling them here (and from what I hear, in some other regions as well). You can get the kit zooms and some of the cheap primes and that's it. Imagine if Canon was not selling L lenses in your region. Silly idea, isn't it?

So who in their right mind would take NX seriously, if even Samsung does not do that? No wonder it's not selling well. People are not that stupid. It seems to me that Samsung thought that selling photography gear will be the same as selling home appliances, TVs, smartphones or whatever. And that was a mistake, apparently.

[Xavier Plagaro Mussard 211]

Let the conspirer in me get out: how can they have made such a great camera as the NX1 (and the lenses, which have always had good reviews) and now they are leaving that market?? It's not like a marketing move?? They are making us pray them to make a NX2??

[Andrew Reid 10,206]

Let the conspirer in me get out: how can they have made such a great camera as the NX1 (and the lenses, which have always had good reviews) and now they are leaving that market?? It's not like a marketing move?? They are making us pray them to make a NX2??

BECAUSE IT DIDN'T SELL VERY WELL.

[Jimmy 905]

Why do people keep ignoring the fact that this is not unprecedented.

Samsung Chromebooks are discontinued in Europe, but sell very well in Asia and USA and are highly rated.

Unless the NX range is tanking wordlwide, this is just what Samsung has said from the start... they monitor regions carefully and act accordingly.

[Marco Tecno 506]

There is no way to mount the Samsung 16-50 lens on a GH3 or GH4 right? That actually would be brilliant

so...why would you want a lower specced body than nx1???

[Andrew Reid 10,206]

You know what, some of these comments remind me what Samsung are up against to educate potential customers about the benefits of their system.

It has some drawbacks but mainly it didn't sell because people just didn't "get it".

Philip Bloom didn't get it either... he bought the NX1, didn't like camera, didn't hear a squeak about it on his blog.

Am I the only one that actually thinks Samsung were hard done by in 2015??

[jacoblewis 135]

This is probably the statement they gave all their retail stores a few weeks ago, when news of them shutting down first leaked (or leaked the 2nd time?). But all that says to me is that people are connecting dots that aren't necessarily there...

Here's what they did say: Samsung is phasing out sales and marketing of their cameras in Germany (and probably other countries as well).

Here's what they didn't say: Samsung is shutting down their camera business and will seize to manufacture any cameras in the future.

So this statement went from "Samsung is stopping sales" to "Samsung is done." Which... is probably a safe and educated assumption. But at the end of the day, it's still an assumption. 

Until we hear Samsung say "our camera division is done!" I don't think we can know for sure how any of this is going to play out. This "official statement" says absolutely nothing that we didn't already know.  I think a lot of people have run with this and made it something it isn't... not yet, at least. But probably just wishful thinking.

[Sekhar 218]

they monitor regions carefully and act accordingly.

Exactly, as does every company on the planet. The problem is people assume what happens where they live is what's happening everywhere. And we in the US are as guilty of that as anyone else, I'll admit.