Jump to content
jacoblewis

Is Samsung shutting down their camera business?

Recommended Posts

Samsung is too big to shutdown the camera division especially at the moment they're developing cutting-edge imaging sensors, the first industry-acclaimed product (nx1) and their continuation of working on consumer feedback and firmware development. I don't believe for a second the company will suddenly ''shut off' the camera manufacturing, laying off everyone working on them, abandoning all their endless camera models and their users and just suddenly shut out all their lens design/manufacturing holds and their customers. Not gonna happen and it's not a rumor I'd look at unless Samsung publicly announces such actions.

Well said.  I agree. Seems like they have buzz for the first time in other (non-Korea) markets.  They have the tech to make quality products that push the market, and could potentially compete in the market.  I would hate for this "rumor" (which I believe it 100% is) to be true. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
EOSHD Pro Color for Sony cameras EOSHD Pro LOG for Sony CamerasEOSHD C-LOG and Film Profiles for All Canon DSLRs

But the stores here always get the new sony, nikon, canon, panasonic cameras really fast but they haven't even got any samsung camera.

Maybe in Sweden but here in Canada good luck finding any current high end camera on store shelves. You might some older models, like the 5D3, gathering dust, but nothing new.

I did an informal survey of camera models competing with the NX1 in stock in the specialist stores in my province based on their websites. With a population of about 4.5 million, there is one GH4, one 7ARII and no 7DIIs on the shelves. That is a grand total of TWO cameras immediately available to 4.5 million people. That is not to say you can't get these cameras, but generally you cant walk into a store and pick one off the shelf. They are sold by mail order or special order, just like the NX1.

Most of the cameras these stores do have on their shelves are consumer models, such as superzooms or entry level DSLR/MILCs.

If you look at Matthias's favorite camera for example, the XC10, you can't pick it up directly anywhere, and only one store offers mail order (they have no stock).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

They have the g7, e-m5ii, 5ds, lx100, d750, rx10ii, rx100iv, fz1000, a7rii, gh4.

You guys in Sweden are lucky.  I went into a physical store for the largest electronics retailer in the United States and they didn't have ANY of those models on display except D750.  They had the 5D MK III and the 7D.  They had price tags but no display model of the 7D MK II and 6D.  They had a bunch of Nikon models as well.  Didn't see a D800.  Zero Olympus interchangeable lens cameras.  Zero Panasonic interchangeable lens cameras.  No lx100.  No rx10 or rx10II.  They had a couple Sony mirrorless cameras but no a7s.  I think there was a tag for a Sony a7.  There definitely was a display model a6000.

In the US you can avoid the 6-9+% sale tax by ordering from an out of state online electronics company.  So a lot of people buy online particularly in the really regressive southern states where I did my little survey.  On a $2,000 camera you could save almost $200 in a state like Arkansas by ordering from B&H.  You would be a fool to buy it locally.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You basically have two types of cameras: big and small. Big ones are SLR and small ones are mirrorless. And SLRs are either Canon and Nikon. Pick from the ones on display here, from low to high cost, depending on your budget. That I believe is the world according to typical consumer stores anywhere, like Best Buy in US for example. There is no way they're going to stock a wacky Samsung NX1: Does Samsung even make SLRs (remember, all big cameras must be SLRs)?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It is all the same rumor from the same source. Not multiple sources. Being regurgitated on a different site doesn't make it more credible.

Sure it does, if the site is reputable. Fact is if this rumor is proven to be true, it will eventually pop up on all the sites that talk about cameras. For the record, I hope it is not true and all that is happening is that Sammy is getting ready to release an new "super" camera. But we will know soon enough.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sure it does, if the site is reputable. Fact is if this rumor is proven to be true, it will eventually pop up on all the sites that talk about cameras. For the record, I hope it is not true and all that is happening is that Sammy is getting ready to release an new "super" camera. But we will know soon enough.

No it doesn't, they are all citing the same blog as their source. If the blog is wrong, so are all the other sites.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Someone at that link mentioned that the new Samyang lenses announced today are not going to be available in the NX mount. All their previous lenses were available in NX. Might be a sign. Then again, as of right now Samsung is supposed to participate in Photo Plus. I won't be surprised either way. They must've lost a ton of money on cameras. Imagine if they had partnered with Olympus. An NX2 with that five axis IS.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My local best buys stopped carrying Samsung mirrorless cameras recently.

My local Best buy stopped carrying pretty much every manufacturer other than what they already have in stock, not just Samsung. The only relatively new cameras they have are some Canon T6i/R. They have a few newer cameras available online, but then they also have the NX500 available online.

I don't think camera sales are particularly profitable for them. Their selection always was pretty limited and in the last two years pretty much stopped being expanded at all. High end models have pretty much disappeared from their shelves other than some old display models. Most of what is actually on the shelves for sale is just a bunch of old models.

Someone at that link mentioned that the new Samyang lenses announced today are not going to be available in the NX mount. All their previous lenses were available in NX. Might be a sign. Then again, as of right now Samsung is supposed to participate in Photo Plus. I won't be surprised either way. They must've lost a ton of money on cameras. Imagine if they had partnered with Olympus. An NX2 with that five axis IS.

They are not available in EF mounts either, so 7DII and rebel users are out in the cold. The Canon mount for those lenses is the M type.

My guess is that those particular lenses have a very tight crop for IQ, so suitable cameras are limited.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
They are not available in EF mounts either, so 7DII and rebel users are out in the cold. The Canon mount for those lenses is the M type.

My guess is that those particular lenses have a very tight crop for IQ, so suitable cameras are limited.

Good point. The NX30 is listed as a closeout on Adorama so hoping they announce a replacement in the coming weeks. I think they should cut down to just three models: NX500, NX30 replacement, and NX1- do away with the NX3000 and Mini.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The new Samyangs are dedicated mirrorless lenses- like their existing 12mm f2. They aren't available for long mirrored mounts (EF, Nikon, A-mount, Pentax etc) because their optical design requires them to be closer to the sensor than those mounts allow.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Looks like the culprit may be the Korean-English machine translation, per DP Review forums anyway. A Korean member there says the original Korean article (which itself is speculation) talked of an official mentioning reducing the camera business, not shutting it down.

And if you need more rumors, here are a couple (again, from the DPR forums). One is that a local Samsung unit itself started these rumors to see the market reaction and manipulate stock prices (sounds a little out-there to me). The other is that Samsung plans to down-size and sell the camera business to a different Samsung subsidiary.

Overall, all this wild reaction/response/speculation is a testament to the success and growing influence of Samsung's NX1 (and NX500 to some extent). Impressive.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I would guess that they are more likely shutting down the point and shoot side of their business and the rumor mongers got confused. That is a dying segment and they likely never sold many cameras there anyway. The NX1 and NX500 were much more successful than their consumer cameras and generated a degree of market acclaim that none of their other cameras came even close to achieving. It seems hard to believe that they would shut it all down just when they break through.

IMO the rumor started when they shut down the manufacturing for the low end cameras (almost certainly made at a different factory than the NX products). Then "getting out of the mass-consumer photography business" became "getting out of the photography business". Just one word being lost completely changes the meaning.

But in any case, time will tell. There is an exhibition coming up in October, plus in early 2016 there will be CES where you would expect the cameras to be shown if they are still developing them.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


×
×
  • Create New...